<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Hey, all I did was decide to enforce an existing rule. Actually, I didn't have to say a thing except for how it was going to be enforced. Frankly, if I had the number of people available to strictly enforce every rule, I would. If nothing else my decision has at least sparked the debate about the rule. It has never made sense to me to never enforce it. Personally I think it needs to be left alone, but others don't. Even this year, no one is saying you can't fly a heavy airplane. You just wont get to keep the scores for that round. I seriously doubt someone with a real shot at winning would show up with a heavy airplane anyway. People can even have their tear sheets for the round. It just wont be listed in the results. </div><div><br></div><div>Arch<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Mar 16, 2012, at 9:48 PM, John Gayer <<a href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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Point taken about having to serve notice that you are going to
enforce a rule at a local contest. Note that Arch had to do that for
the Nats this year and such a clatter did arise....<br>
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On 3/16/2012 6:53 PM, Dave Burton wrote:
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one issue about waive a rule notification in really bothers
me in your suggestion. Having to post in advance 30 days
that a CD will enforce a rule is counter to any other
process I’ve seen. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
becoming clear -eliminating the max weight rule is the only
system that really works. LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>John Gayer<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This won't work very well, in my opinion.
Who is going to the Nats if they start out 5-10% behind? This
does nothing to increase attendance and is detrimental to
operation of local contests. All it takes is an unhappy pilot
feeling he was home-towned protesting vociferously about the
heavy airplane that just beat him and demanding a weight check
that might reverse the first and second places. <br>
<br>
IF the CD denies the protest, you've lost a pilot. If you do a
weight check and it fails, then you've lost a different pilot.
To prevent this, a CD must waive the weight rules on his
sanction which is not normally done now, although it should
be. So extra work and/or hassle for the CD and extra work for
scorekeeper/scorekeeping systems. For what gain? A rule that
will not be enforced locally and will keep pilots away from
the Nats just as much as no weight allowance at all. <br>
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At the very least, preface the rule proposal with something
like:<br>
This weight rule will be enforced at the Nats. If a CD
chooses to include this rule at a local contest, he must
publicize that fact appropriately to all potential attendees
at least 30 days prior to the contest. <br>
<br>
At a local contest, this officially leaves us with no weight
rule at all in AMA classes. That's probably OK as we could
reject on size if needed. Personally I would only turn someone
away if they brought a 42% Extra to fly in Masters and maybe
not even then...<br>
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Cheers<br>
John<br>
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On 3/15/2012 7:54 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</a>
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<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Hi
All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Here
is a copy of another proposal for consideration by the
Contest Board along with the others that have been
submitted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">This
one does not disqualify a model for not meeting weight
limits. It imposes a score penalty, but still allows the
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">model
to participate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Ron
Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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