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    Point taken about having to serve notice that you are going to
    enforce a rule at a local contest. Note that Arch had to do that for
    the Nats this year and such a clatter did arise....<br>
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    On 3/16/2012 6:53 PM, Dave Burton wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">John,
            one issue about waive a rule notification in really bothers
            me in your suggestion. Having to post in advance 30 days
            that a CD will enforce a rule is counter to any other
            process I&#8217;ve seen. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">It
            becoming clear -eliminating the max weight rule is the only
            system that really works. LOL<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:windowtext">
                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>John Gayer<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:20 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Rules Proposals<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">This won't work very well, in my opinion.
          Who is going to the Nats if they start out 5-10% behind? This
          does nothing to increase attendance and is detrimental to
          operation of local contests. All it takes is an unhappy pilot
          feeling he was home-towned protesting vociferously about the
          heavy airplane that just beat him and demanding a weight check
          that might reverse the first and second places. <br>
          <br>
          IF the CD denies the protest, you've lost a pilot. If you do a
          weight check and it fails, then you've lost a different pilot.
          To prevent this, a CD must waive the weight rules on his
          sanction which is not normally done now, although it should
          be. So extra work and/or hassle for the CD and extra work for
          scorekeeper/scorekeeping systems. For what gain? A rule that
          will not be enforced locally and will keep pilots away from
          the Nats just as much as no weight allowance at all. <br>
          <br>
          At the very least, preface the rule proposal with something
          like:<br>
          This weight rule will be enforced at the Nats. If a CD&nbsp;
          chooses to include this rule at a local contest, he must
          publicize that fact appropriately to all potential attendees
          at least 30 days prior to the contest. <br>
          <br>
          At a local contest, this officially leaves us with no weight
          rule at all in AMA classes. That's probably OK as we could
          reject on size if needed. Personally I would only turn someone
          away if they brought a 42% Extra to fly in Masters and maybe
          not even then...<br>
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          Cheers<br>
          John<br>
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          On 3/15/2012 7:54 AM, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</a>
          wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Hi
              All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Here
              is a copy of another proposal for consideration by the
              Contest Board&nbsp;along with the others that have been
              submitted.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">This
              one does not disqualify a model for not meeting weight
              limits.&nbsp; It imposes a score penalty, but still&nbsp;allows&nbsp;the
              <o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">model
              to participate.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
          <p><span
              style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Ron
              Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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