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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>At the RPM pattern outrunners typically run, I think even the cheapest ESCs have plenty of overhead in terms of commutation rate. Certainly the commutation rate of the Jeti is more than enough to handle 6500 +/- RPM on the 30-10.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Campbell<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>My suggestion to limit throttle isn't to limit current draw. It's to limit the motor RPM's so the ESC can remain synchronized with the motor. If the motor turns faster than the ESC can handle, the motor will begin screeching. I've only seen this on outrunners, never inrunners.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:55 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>That was my thought. I don't understand why one would want to limit the throttle to something less than full. Why not install a prop that loads the motor less?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 3/15/12, Peter Vogel <i><<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br>To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Cc: "General patterndiscussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 12:15 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div id=yiv312173478><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Limiting throttle does NOT limit current to the motor, in fact, it can cause higher current draw. All throttle does is vary the on vs off cycle during which voltage is sent to the motor. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peter+<br><br>Sent from my iPhone4S<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, "Robert Green" <<a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank">robcase1@cox.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi Rob, the Static amps on the ground is 81 amps. My throttle is limited to 85 percent. Even changed out the speed controller and the same thing happened. Really wish i knew what was going on?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Campbell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Which Jeti are you running? Advance or Spin? Just a guess, but all the outrunners I've run require low timing advance and some require fixed end points and the throttle to be limited to 70 percent or so. Also, have your checked your set-up on a watt meter? Sometimes our set-ups pull more current than we were expecting and the ESC over current protection kicks in.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hope this helps.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank" title="robcase1@cox.net">Robert Green</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern discussion'</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:19 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is anyone out there running this combo. Went flying today, and had some issue with the speed controller cutting out when i was setting up for my approach into the pattern. I was pulling up and advanced the throttle to do an reverse cuban eight to get into my pattern, when the motor suddenly quit. I pulled the throttle back and advanced it once again and the motor came back it did this on every flight except the first flight where i had no issues whatsoever. my setting are high timing for the motor, low cut off voltage, acceleration high,</span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv312173478msonormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thnaks in advance</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></body></html>