<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Robert,<br><br>The only way I can think of that this is a receiver problem is that motor or ESC noise is being picked up on the ESC lines (any or all) and the 8 channel Rx is somehow more tolerant of the noise or better able to filter it than the other Rx. I would be uncomfortable at leaving this at - I have to use my old receiver. <br><br>Ed<div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Ronald Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b><span style="font-weight:
bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thu, March 15, 2012 10:14:28 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br></font><br>Wait a minute. "<span class="Apple-style-span" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 128);font-size:13px;">The problem was with the receiver." doesn't quite cut it. What was the problem? </span><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000080"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000080"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:13px;">I'm glad you got the problem "solved", but you can't trust that receiver until you identify the problem. BTW, "I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer, but you could save somebody else a lot of grief if you know what was wrong with the receiver.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#000080"><span
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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Well I think I found the issue with the
Jeti and the Plettenberg. The problem was with the receiver. I recently got a
new radio, and installed the new rx in the plane, and then the issue started
showing up. I even went and borrowed a Jeti99Spin, to see if this would
resolve the issue, but it did not, so I started to think of everything that I
had changed, and decided to go back to my 8 channel receiver and voila,
everything is back to normal. Thanks to everyone for there input. Feels good
to have the problem behind me</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Campbell<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 15, 2012
8:38 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> General
pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="
font-size:12.0pt;">My suggestion to limit throttle isn't to limit current draw. It's
to limit the motor RPM's so the ESC can remain synchronized with the
motor. If the motor turns faster than the ESC can handle, the motor will
begin screeching. I've only seen this on outrunners, never inrunners.</span></font></p>
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<div style=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:#E4E4E4;"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;"> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> </span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;"> Thursday, March
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;"> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">That was my thought. I don't understand why one
would want to limit the throttle to something less than full. Why not install
a prop that loads the motor less?</span></font></p>
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--- On <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Thu, 3/15/12, Peter Vogel <i><span style="font-style:italic;"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>></span></i></span></b>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br>
To: " General pattern discussion "
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Limiting throttle does NOT limit current to the
motor, in fact, it can cause higher current draw. All throttle does is
vary the on vs off cycle during which voltage is sent to the motor. </span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;">Peter+<br>
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On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, "Robert Green" <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net">robcase1@cox.net</a>>
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<div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;">Hi Rob, the Static amps
on the ground is 81 amps. My throttle is limited to 85 percent.
Even changed out the speed controller and the same thing
happened. Really wish i knew what was going on?</span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style="
font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert Campbell<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 14, 2012
9:18 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> General
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Robert,</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Which Jeti are you running?
Advance or Spin? Just a guess, but all the outrunners I've
run require low timing advance and some require fixed end points and the
throttle to be limited to 70 percent or so. Also, have your checked
your set-up on a watt meter? Sometimes our set-ups pull more current
than we were expecting and the ESC over current protection kicks in.</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Hope this helps.</span></font></p>
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<div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal" style="background:#E4E4E4;"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;"> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" title="robcase1@cox.net">Robert
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<div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;"> [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span></font></p>
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</div><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">Is anyone out there running this
combo. Went flying today, and had some issue with the speed controller
cutting out when i was setting up for my approach into the pattern. I
was pulling up and advanced the throttle to do an reverse cuban eight to get
into my pattern, when the motor suddenly quit. I pulled the throttle
back and advanced it once again and the motor came back it did this on every
flight except the first flight where i had no issues whatsoever. my
setting are high timing for the motor, low cut off voltage, acceleration
high,</span></font> </p><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></p><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></font></p><p class="yiv312173478msonormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;">thnaks in advance</span></font> </p>
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