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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Robert,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Does the 18mz RX have a high speed mode on it?&nbsp; Can you go to the &#8220;normal&#8221; mode on the RX and try it?&nbsp; I was told by a good friend to swap to &#8220;normal&#8221; mode on the 8 channel RX because I couldn&#8217;t get the Jeti programmer to work directly plugged into the RX to check pulse settings on the throttle.&nbsp; When I changed to &#8220;normal&#8221; mode it worked just fine &#8211; high speed mode never worked.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-Derek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Green<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 5:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Ed, I don't like it either I mat try a ferrite ring, as I like the telemetry feature on the tx from the rx.&nbsp; Anyone else using the 18MZ receiver seeing any issues with the motor cutting out?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ed White<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 6:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert,<br><br>The only way I can think of that this is a receiver problem is that motor or ESC noise is being picked up on the ESC lines (any or all) and the 8 channel Rx is somehow more tolerant of the noise or better able to filter it than the other Rx.&nbsp; I would be uncomfortable at leaving this at - I have to use my old receiver. &nbsp; <br><br>Ed<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Ronald Van Putte &lt;<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a>&gt;<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Thu, March 15, 2012 10:14:28 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br></span><br>Wait a minute. &quot;<span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>The problem was with the receiver.&quot; doesn't quite cut it. &nbsp;What was the problem? &nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>I'm glad you got the problem &quot;solved&quot;, but you can't trust that receiver until you identify the problem. &nbsp;BTW, &quot;I don't know&quot; is a perfectly valid answer, but you could save somebody else a lot of grief if you know what was wrong with the receiver.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>Ron</span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Robert Green wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Well I think I found the issue with the Jeti and the Plettenberg.&nbsp; The problem was with the receiver.&nbsp; I recently got a new radio, and installed the new rx in the plane, and then the issue started showing up.&nbsp; I even went and borrowed a Jeti99Spin, to see if this would resolve the issue, but it did not, so I started to think of everything that I had changed, and decided to go back to my 8 channel receiver and voila, everything is back to normal.&nbsp; Thanks to everyone for there input.&nbsp; Feels good to have the problem behind me</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Campbell<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>My suggestion to limit throttle isn't to limit current draw.&nbsp; It's to limit the motor RPM's so the ESC can remain synchronized with the motor.&nbsp; If the motor turns faster than the ESC can handle, the motor will begin screeching.&nbsp; I've only seen this on outrunners, never inrunners.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" target="_blank" title="bob@toprudder.com">Bob Richards</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:55 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>That was my thought. I don't understand why one would want to limit the throttle to something less than full. Why not install a prop that loads the motor less?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 3/15/12, Peter Vogel <i>&lt;<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>From: Peter Vogel &lt;<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br>To: &quot; General pattern discussion &quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>Cc: &quot;General patterndiscussion&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>Date: Thursday, March 15, 2012, 12:15 AM<o:p></o:p></p><div id=yiv312173478><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Limiting throttle does NOT limit current to the motor, in fact, it can cause higher current draw. &nbsp;All throttle does is vary the on vs off cycle during which voltage is sent to the motor.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Peter+<br><br>Sent from my iPhone4S<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, &quot;Robert Green&quot; &lt;<a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank">robcase1@cox.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Hi Rob, the Static amps on the ground is 81 amps.&nbsp; My throttle is limited to 85 percent.&nbsp; Even changed out the speed controller and the same thing happened.&nbsp;&nbsp; Really wish i knew what was going on?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Campbell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Robert,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Which Jeti are you running?&nbsp; Advance or Spin?&nbsp; Just a guess, but&nbsp;all the outrunners I've run&nbsp;require low timing advance and some require fixed end points and the throttle to be limited to 70 percent or so.&nbsp; Also, have your checked your set-up on a watt meter?&nbsp; Sometimes our set-ups pull more current than we were expecting and the ESC over current protection kicks in.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hope this helps.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Rob</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank" title="robcase1@cox.net">Robert Green</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern discussion'</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:19 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Is anyone out there running this combo.&nbsp; Went flying today, and had some issue with the speed controller cutting out when i was setting up for my approach into the pattern.&nbsp; I was pulling up and advanced the throttle to do an reverse cuban eight to get into my pattern, when the motor suddenly quit.&nbsp; I pulled the throttle back and advanced it once again and the motor came back it did this on every flight except the first flight where i had no issues whatsoever.&nbsp; my setting are high timing for the motor, low cut off voltage, acceleration high,</span> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=yiv312173478msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>thnaks in advance</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=yiv312173478msonormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>-----Inline Attachment Follows-----<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>