<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Derek, Earl, John,<div><br></div><div>We're getting close to understanding the system but not understanding the cause of the original problem. Sounds like the Spin ESCs do work in high speed and it is not an amplitude problem. I just looked at the 18MZ manual and I see no mention of high speed for that receiver. Earl has to figure out if it does have a high speed mode. If it doesn't, then John is correct that it does seem like the wrong direction. Someone will eventually figure out what the rep rate is on the S.Bus but it would be so much easier if Futaba would tell us what the interface specs are.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim O</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Jim,<div><br></div><div>My Jeti SPIN worked fine running on the HS channel - only the programming box wouldn't work when plugging into CH6. When I changed it to "normal" mode it worked just fine.</div><div><br>
</div><div>-Derek<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM, James Oddino <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">I know the Jeti Box does not measure the pulse width on the high speed channels and I would guess the ESC wouldn't work either. I run my throttle (Spin 99 ESC) on channel 7 and I suspect that was because it didn't work on high speed but I truly can't remember if I actually tried it on a HS channel. I told you I was getting old. Does the 18MZ receiver have any low rep rate channels?<div>
<br></div><div>Jim O</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 16, 2012, at 1:31 PM, ehaury wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
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<div><font face="Arial">Jon</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Possibly, as Derek mentioned - setting the RX from HS to
standard is worth trying.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Earl</font></div>
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<a title="jonlowe@aol.com" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">Jon Lowe</a> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 3:29
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</div>
<div><br></div><font color="black" size="3" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Can average volts cause problems like
Robert is seeing? Could the speed control be looking for both a voltage
peak and duration?</font><br><br>
<div style="CLEAR:both"><font color="black" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="black" face="arial"><span style="FONT-SIZE:medium">Jon</span></font></font></div><br><br>
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Message-----<br>From: ehaury <<a href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net" target="_blank">ejhaury@comcast.net</a>><br>To: General
pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Sent:
Fri, Mar 16, 2012 3:24 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10
evo and Jeti ESC<br><br>
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<div><font face="Arial">Well, Jim caught me. So much for quick & dirty!
</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">I made the servo signal measurements using a high
impedance meter with a scope mode. It displays a voltage at the top of the
scope screen, as well as a freq. Without thinking, that voltage is the number
I reported, and it's 50% different between the RX's because one was operating
at 2X the freq of the other, but it's not pulse amplitude but average
volts. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">I took another look and the actual pulse amplitude is
the same for both, and is 3v as Jim observed. Pretty obvious upon
thinking about it. So - Futaba didn't change anything and Robert's problem
isn't with pulse amplitude. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Jim, thanks for questioning me - sorry for the
confusion. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Earl</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="joddino@socal.rr.com" href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">James
Oddino</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">General pattern
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 1:55
PM</div>
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Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</div>
<div><br></div>Earl, something doesn't look right. How did you measure
the pulse amplitude? Did you have a servo connected? I measure
3.0 volts peak unloaded on a 6108SB.
<div><br></div>
<div>Jim O</div>
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<div>On Mar 16, 2012, at 8:18 AM, ehaury wrote:</div><br>
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<div><font face="Arial">I compared the servo pulse amplitude of the 6008HS
(0.64v) and the 7008SB (0.32v) RXs. That's a significant difference, while
Futaba servos are designed to work at that level, other stuff isn't.
That's likely the issue with your ESC. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">Earl</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b>From:</b>
<a title="robcase1@cox.net" href="mailto:robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank">Robert
Green</a> </div>
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discussion'</a> </div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:44
AM</div>
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Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC</div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Thanks Earl i
was told that someone else in Europe was experiencing similar problems
with theirs as well. Hope they can get it
resloved.</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>ehaury<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, March 16, 2012 8:27 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:12pt">Suggest you give Futaba
service / Steve Kaluf a call. It may be that the RX pulse rise is a
little low for the ESC. Futaba have, in the past at least, used a lower
pulse amplitude than some others which resulted in strange results when
mixing servos on occasion. If this is the case, the problem is more
compatibility with the ESC than RX defect, still annoying
though.</span></font></div></div>
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<a title="robcase1@cox.net" href="mailto:robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank">Robert
Green</a> </span></font></div></div>
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<a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">'General pattern
discussion'</a> </span></font></div></div>
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Friday, March 16, 2012 7:42 AM</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Ed, I don't
like it either I mat try a ferrite ring, as I like the telemetry
feature on the tx from the rx. Anyone else using the 18MZ
receiver seeing any issues with the motor cutting
out?</span></font></div>
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<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Ed
White<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
March 16, 2012 6:56 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Robert,<br><br>The only
way I can think of that this is a receiver problem is that motor or
ESC noise is being picked up on the ESC lines (any or all) and the 8
channel Rx is somehow more tolerant of the noise or better able to
filter it than the other Rx. I would be uncomfortable at leaving
this at - I have to use my old receiver.
<br><br>Ed</span></font></div>
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Ronald Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target="_blank">vanputte@cox.net</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thu, March 15, 2012
10:14:28 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC<br></span></font><br>Wait a minute. "<span><font color="navy"><span style="COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">The problem was with the
receiver." doesn't quite cut it. What was the problem?
</span></font></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">I'm glad you got the problem
"solved", but you can't trust that receiver until you identify the
problem. BTW, "I don't know" is a perfectly valid answer, but
you could save somebody else a lot of grief if you know what was wrong
with the receiver.</span></font></span></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman"><span style="COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Ron</span></font></span></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">On Mar 15, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Robert Green
wrote:</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Well I think
I found the issue with the Jeti and the Plettenberg. The problem
was with the receiver. I recently got a new radio, and installed
the new rx in the plane, and then the issue started showing up.
I even went and borrowed a Jeti99Spin, to see if this would resolve
the issue, but it did not, so I started to think of everything that I
had changed, and decided to go back to my 8 channel receiver and
voila, everything is back to normal. Thanks to everyone for
there input. Feels good to have the problem behind
me</span></font></div>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Robert
Campbell<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 AM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">My suggestion to limit throttle isn't to limit
current draw. It's to limit the motor RPM's so the ESC can
remain synchronized with the motor. If the motor turns faster
than the ESC can handle, the motor will begin screeching. I've
only seen this on outrunners, never
inrunners.</span></font></div></div>
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<a title="bob@toprudder.com" href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com" target="_blank">Bob
Richards</a> </span></font></div></div>
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<a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">General pattern
discussion</a> </span></font></div></div>
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Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:55 AM</span></font></div></div>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">That was my thought. I don't
understand why one would want to limit the throttle to
something less than full. Why not install a prop that loads
the motor less?</span></font></div></div>
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Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC<br>To: " General pattern discussion " <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Cc:
"General patterndiscussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Date:
Thursday, March 15, 2012, 12:15 AM</span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">Limiting throttle does NOT limit
current to the motor, in fact, it can cause higher current
draw. All throttle does is vary the on vs off cycle
during which voltage is sent to the
motor. </span></font></div></div>
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<div style="MARGIN-BOTTOM:12pt" class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt"><br>On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM,
"Robert Green" <<a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank">robcase1@cox.net</a>>
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<div><font color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;COLOR:navy;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Hi
Rob, the Static amps on the ground is 81 amps. My
throttle is limited to 85 percent. Even changed out
the speed controller and the same thing
happened. Really wish i knew what was going
on?</span></font></div></div>
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<div><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma;FONT-SIZE:10pt"> <a href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Robert Campbell<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
March 14, 2012 9:18 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div></blockquote></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Which Jeti are
you running? Advance or Spin? Just a guess,
but all the outrunners I've run require low timing
advance and some require fixed end points and the throttle
to be limited to 70 percent or so. Also, have your
checked your set-up on a watt meter? Sometimes our
set-ups pull more current than we were expecting and the ESC
over current protection kicks in.</span></font></div></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Hope this
helps.</span></font></div></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4"><b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt"> <a title="robcase1@cox.net" href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target="_blank">Robert Green</a> </span></font></div>
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<div><b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt"> <a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">'General pattern discussion'</a>
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<div><b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt"> Wednesday,
March 14, 2012 8:19 PM</span></font></div></div>
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<div><b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt;FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></font></b><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">
[NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti
ESC</span></font></div></div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">Is anyone out
there running this combo. Went flying today, and had
some issue with the speed controller cutting out when i
was setting up for my approach into the pattern. I
was pulling up and advanced the throttle to do an reverse
cuban eight to get into my pattern, when the motor
suddenly quit. I pulled the throttle back and
advanced it once again and the motor came back it did this
on every flight except the first flight where i had no
issues whatsoever. my setting are high timing for
the motor, low cut off voltage, acceleration
high,</span></font> </div>
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<div><font face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:Arial;FONT-SIZE:10pt">thnaks in
advance</span></font> </div>
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