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<div>It's disappointing that after the various radio manufacturers standardized wiring, signal timing, etc. for servos, that Futaba would move, again, in this direction. They should make clear in their advertising that their new receivers may not be compatible with equipment you already have. Should be considered a design defect. All this does is hurt the customers.<br>
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<div><FONT face=Arial>I compared the servo pulse amplitude of the 6008HS (0.64v) and the 7008SB (0.32v) RXs. That's a significant difference, while Futaba servos are designed to work at that level, other stuff isn't. That's likely the issue with your ESC. </FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:44 AM</div>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, March 16, 2012 8:27 AM<br>
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<div class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ed, I don't like it either I mat try a ferrite ring, as I like the telemetry feature on the tx from the rx. Anyone else using the 18MZ receiver seeing any issues with the motor cutting out?</SPAN></FONT></div>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, March 16, 2012 6:56 AM<br>
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The only way I can think of that this is a receiver problem is that motor or ESC noise is being picked up on the ESC lines (any or all) and the 8 channel Rx is somehow more tolerant of the noise or better able to filter it than the other Rx. I would be uncomfortable at leaving this at - I have to use my old receiver. <br>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thu, March 15, 2012 10:14:28 PM<br>
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Wait a minute. "<SPAN class=apple-style-span><FONT color=navy size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The problem was with the receiver." doesn't quite cut it. What was the problem? </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></div>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:38 AM<br>
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From: Peter Vogel <<A href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</A>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Plettenberg 30-10 evo and Jeti ESC<br>
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On Mar 14, 2012, at 7:29 PM, "Robert Green" <<A href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=robcase1@cox.net" target=_blank>robcase1@cox.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT></div>
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:18 PM<br>
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<div class=yiv312173478msonormal><FONT size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Is anyone out there running this combo. Went flying today, and had some issue with the speed controller cutting out when i was setting up for my approach into the pattern. I was pulling up and advanced the throttle to do an reverse cuban eight to get into my pattern, when the motor suddenly quit. I pulled the throttle back and advanced it once again and the motor came back it did this on every flight except the first flight where i had no issues whatsoever. my setting are high timing for the motor, low cut off voltage, acceleration high,</SPAN></FONT> </div>
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