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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Scott </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>There may be some terminology issues here. A disarming
"SWITCH" was determined to not meet the disconnect requirements, as a switch
makes / breaks a circuit internally making it impossible for an official to
quickly determine which position is on or off. OTOH, an external disarming
"PLUG" or "KEY" or "CONNECTOR" doesn't have that problem. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Derek may have had further discussions with the F3A
committee regarding this since the WC - I can only speak to what the official
interpretation was at the Worlds.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=scmcharg@gmail.com href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">Scott McHarg</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:13
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Safety
Proposal amended</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I'd like to see it as well Earl. This was verbatim from
Derek Koopowitz. I had to rely on him because what I originally wanted
to say in public, I ran passed Derek and he said that was not the case.
He said you may use a disarm plug but that did not satisfy the FAI requirement
to display disconnected batteries.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:09 PM, ehaury <SPAN
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href="mailto:ejhaury@comcast.net">ejhaury@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Scott</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Where do you find this interpretation?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fbfcff" face=Verdana> "A disarm
plug is NOT allowed to demonstrate a disconnect - there has to be a physical
disconnect of the wiring and must be seen by an official." </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fbfcff" face=Verdana>This was not the
case for the 2011 WC. I participated in the TM meeting where it was
initially stated that both battery leads would need to be disconnected.
After some discussion the jury, ED & TD (me) determined that one
lead was sufficient and it didn't matter if it was internal or external.
Most of the E competitors made the connect / disconnect internally, often
with the person doing it exposed to the prop arc. Models were also removed
from the runway, so as not to impede the next competitor, before making the
EoF disconnect (before returning to the pits). I was one of the officials
watching for this.</FONT></DIV>
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face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fbfcff" face=Verdana>If the quoted
interpretation is official, then so be it - but I'd like to see the
publication.</FONT></DIV>
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face=Verdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fbfcff" face=Verdana>Earl</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><B>From:</B> <A
title=scmcharg@gmail.com href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com"
target=_blank>Scott McHarg</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target=_blank>General
pattern discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 15, 2012 12:27
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [NSRCA-discussion] Safety
Proposal amended</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><SPAN
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(251,252,255); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial">With
a passing vote of the NSRCA BoD, we respectfully submit to you the new
Safety Proposal. Essentially, the Safety Proposal that is currently
with the AMA is being retracted and two new proposals put in its place.
The first one is simply the Fail-safe proposal that was part of the
submitted Safety Proposal. Then, the second new proposal will
replace 6.9(a) as 6.9.1 and <U style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">directly
quoted and out of the current FAI Sporting Code</U>. The referred
section is on page 16 in 5.1.11 of the FAI Sporting Code for 2012.
Please note that in FAI, in order to follow the rule, the disconnect
must happen right after landing before the helper picks up the plane.
A disarm plug is NOT allowed to demonstrate a disconnect - there has
to be a physical disconnect of the wiring and must be seen by an official.
Interesting huh!</SPAN>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small">Before anyone says it, I disagree that the arming
plug does not constitute a physical break in the wiring. Through
some consideration and advice from people that have run the Worlds, the
plug is external and does not constitute proof that the physical
connection internally has happened. That's the FAI rule. As
submitted, that part is <U
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">not</U> written into the proposal. It
is simply the direct quote from the FAI Sporting Code. Here is the
exact verbiage of the new proposals as submitted to the AMA. I don't
know when AMA will get the physical proposals up on their
site.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(251,252,255); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: small"><B><U>New Proposal for 6.9</U></B></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small"><BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(251,252,255); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: small"><SPAN>6.9 – Propeller safety - All contestants
using radio equipment with a failsafe function shall be able to
demonstrate that propeller rotation will either stop or reduce to an idle
RPM when the transmitter is powered down while the aircraft receiver
system is powered on. Idle RPM for this purpose is defined as an RPM
during which the model will remain stationary when already
motionless.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: small"><SPAN><BR></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: rgb(251,252,255); FONT-FAMILY: Verdana,Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13px"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: small"><SPAN><B><U>New Proposal for
6.9.1</U></B></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV
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style="FONT-SIZE: small"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman',serif">6.9.1 – For electric powered
models, the electric power circuit(s) must not be physically connected,
before the starting time is begun and must be physically disconnected
immediately after landing.</SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>-- <BR><B style="COLOR: rgb(51,51,255)"><FONT
style="FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif" size=4>Scott A.
McHarg</FONT></B><BR><BR></DIV></DIV>
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