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From: khoard@gmail.com<BR>Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:34:55 -0600<BR>To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Switch<BR><BR>
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<DIV>And leave the method of disarming up to the pilot. <BR><BR>
<DIV><SPAN class=ecxApple-style-span>Keith Hoard</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Feb 13, 2012, at 17:12, Ronald Van Putte <<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Now that's a good idea.
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<DIV>Ron </DIV>
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<DIV>On Feb 13, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Scott Smith wrote:</DIV><BR class=ecxApple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Agreed…caller is responsible for the safety/restraint of the plane and keeping others away from the prop until disarmed. Procedures should be reviewed in pilot’s meeting.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Maybe in addition to a ready box, we designate a “shutdown box” ahead of the pit area where callers return to and wait for the owner to disarm.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Verne Koester<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, February 13, 2012 5:14 PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>'General pattern discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Switch</SPAN></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">My caller’s always maintain control of my airplane until I come over to disarm it. It goes with the gig. If I’m using a new caller, all of that’s covered before we start. Chris Moon and I called for each other all through the Nats and we never called for each other before that. As it turns out, we have identical routines and from what I’ve seen, most guys have routines similar to ours.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">As soon as I land, my left thumb goes on top of the throttle stick at the base pinning it to low throttle which means brake on for me and stays there until I get to my plane to disarm it. When I’m initiating or disarming my plane, I don’t and won’t respond to anyone trying to engage me in conversation. My order for initializing is Tx, Rx, then batteries in that order. When I’m disarming, it’s batteries, Rx and Tx in that order. It’s all about safe practices and routine. I’ve had no mishaps in 8 years in electric and won’t have any mishaps.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>On Behalf Of<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN></B>Keith Hoard<BR><B>Sent:</B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Monday, February 13, 2012 2:48 PM<BR><B>To:</B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>General pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Switch</SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in" class=ecxMsoNormal>Just how many airplanes have we seen fly out of caller's hands at contests? Is this a widespread problem, or just isolated to a couple contests? Why can't the caller maintain positive control of the airplane until the owner gets over to disconnect the battery? If the caller and/or pilot are that distracted after a flight, what is to keep them from forgetting to removing the arming plug? <SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR><BR>I think this is a solution wandering around looking for a problem. If you can't remember to disconnect your battery as soon as possible after a flight and to only connect it just prior to flight then you won't remember to use your arming plug to perform the same functions.<BR clear=all><BR>Keith Hoard<BR>Collierville, TN<BR><A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR></P>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Bob Richards <<A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">bob@toprudder.com</A>> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">Regardless, disconnecting the battery or arming plug would have prevented the situation. Point taken.</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><BR><BR>--- On<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><B>Mon, 2/13/12, Mark Hunt<SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN><I><<A style="COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline" href="mailto:flyintexan@att.net">flyintexan@att.net</A>></I></B><SPAN class=ecxApple-converted-space> </SPAN>wrote:</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', serif; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in">Myself, among others witnessed a speed control (rx off) turn on violently during an interesting test in which the pilot showed us what a ringing cell phone can do when placed next to an armed speed control. No, I don't know the brand of ESC.</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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