<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>I don't often post on this list, but for what it is worth, the survey has proposals that are timely and that reflect the issues of the day as I recall from so many discussions on the flight line. I didn't immediately think the BoD forced my hand or made assumptions that were premature. </DIV>
<DIV>I think I am able to complete the survey without being influenced by the wording of the preamble. However, I trust that the results of the survey will be tabulated and posted here prior to taking them to the AMA. </DIV>
<DIV>On the other hand, asking for opinions on this list about the proposals is risky business since at least one of the proposals is a historical hot potato (Contestant Classification). Personally, I feel that a lot more is broken about our development classes than the ability to move up or down from one class to the other. (...that comment alone is good for at least 247 vitriolic responses, I'm sure)</DIV>
<DIV>All the other proposals are hard to argue against, although the Equipment/Telemetry rule would be a nightmare to enforce, in my opinion. Not right or wrong, just hard to enforce.</DIV>
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<DIV>Without indicating what I voted on the survey, I'm OK with the process. Gonna be interesting to see the results.</DIV>
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<DIV>John</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 2/11/12, J N Hiller <I><jnhiller@earthlink.net></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: J N Hiller <jnhiller@earthlink.net><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey isavailable<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Saturday, February 11, 2012, 7:17 PM<BR><BR>
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<P class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><SPAN class=yiv1304192167EmailStyle18><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Peter I did exactly what you are suggesting by sending my suggestions for changes to the initial proposal directly to Scott for the contest board's consideration when writing the final proposal to be submitted to AMA.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><SPAN class=yiv1304192167EmailStyle18><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I didn't post it here because these discussion topics quickly deteriorate to off subject usually private conversations.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><SPAN class=yiv1304192167EmailStyle18><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Of all the posts today I haven't seen any discussion on the content of the proposals. If we fail to express constructive suggestions the proposals will likely be submitted in their present configuration.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><SPAN class=yiv1304192167EmailStyle18><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I apologize in advance if some of you find my remarks offensive it isn't meant to be.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Peter Vogel<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:59 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey isavailable</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I fail to see why the board's opinion on the rules proposals as written is relevant. They are doing what I would expect the board of an org like outs to do: asking the membership for their opinions on the proposals. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The only thing I would have liked to see was a fourth option on the survey questions: ' I would support this proposal with modifications: ' with a text field for verbatim feedback on the modifications. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Peter+<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone4S</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Dan Curtis <<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=warrior523@att.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:warrior523@att.net">warrior523@att.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That is not what is written in the introduction. I would like to see each board member answer the question on this membership list, are they for it as it is stated or are they for the process in general?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is available<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>Dan,<BR> I guess you'd have to ask each individual member of the BoD. I can tell you that prior to finalizing what you see as a candidate proposal, we presented where we were and what we were working on to the BoD in a telephonic meeting. Although they did not have the proposals in their hand, each proposal was explained and the floor was open for discussion. Not one single person said something to the contrary other than they felt we were doing a good job and we were on the right track. That says to me that we were pursuing what was asked of us. The survey will then tell us if our community feels the same.<BR><BR>Scott</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Dan Curtis <<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=warrior523@att.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:warrior523@att.net">warrior523@att.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.8pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is available</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.8pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Gentlemen,<BR> As you can see from the forums, everyone of us has our own opinion. The BoD asked us to make "proposals". These are not "the rules" nor are they set in stone. We came up with said proposals based on input from individuals who took the time to email, phone and post their requests. The survey is doing exactly what it was meant to do, get everyone's opinion based on what we laid out there. If you don't like it, that's fine. This is simply a starting point. The results of the survey will tell us whether we are on,
off or close to what our community wants. Once the survey finishes, the results will be taken back and, if needed, proposals amended. I'd suggest that the results will indicate what percentile are in favor of vs. those that are against. I don't think any of you would expect everyone that flies pattern to get in a room and try to formulate proposals based on every single opinion in that room. That would be a nightmare.<BR> The Board of Directors recognize that change is a <U>possibility</U> but not necessarily warranted in all cases. Again, that would be the purpose of the focus group to try to get something done and out there for the community to weigh in on. At that point, the amended proposals are then taken to the BoD for endorsement and then to the AMA Rules Committee which, in reality, is the group that must find out if these proposals are realistic and what the community wants. AMA owns
precision aerobatics, not the NSRCA and the NSRCA does not make the rules. The 5500g rule came from other development classes that are around the world i.e. France and South Africa who have implemented said changes to their development classes. MAYBE the number is off to an extent. MAYBE we don't need that kind of increase. I guess that's what the survey will tell us. I'd suggest telling all that you know to get out there and take the survey if you feel strongly about something. This is how we begin the process.<BR><BR>Scott</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 76.8pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Vicente "Vince" Bortone <<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vicenterc@comcast.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 81.6pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">So is this a second survey? I remember one few months ago and didn't have those proposals. I am confused now.<BR></SPAN></FONT><FONT color=#888888><SPAN style="COLOR: #888888"><BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: black"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P style="BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 81.6pt; BORDER-TOP: medium none; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in" class=yiv1304192167MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">----- Original Message -----<BR>From: Dan Curtis &<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lt%3Bwarrior523@att.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lt%3Bwarrior523@att.net">lt;warrior523@att.net</A>&gt;<BR>To: General pattern discussion &<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lt%3Bnsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:lt%3Bnsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR>Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:17:53 -0000 (UTC)<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA
candidate rules proposal survey is available<BR>I was re-reading the post about the survey and am really having a problem with<BR>the 4th paragraph. It says:<BR>The NSRCA BoD encourages your support in responding to the survey as the changes<BR>are believed to be appropriate for the continued growth and sustainment of AMA<BR>pattern. <BR> <BR>Is this actually saying that our board of directors is for the changes stated in<BR>the survey. This is really hard to believe and even harder to fathom.<BR> <BR>Where did these "candidate rule proposals" come from? Why the 5500 gram weight<BR>rule? Where did that one come from? This whole thing seems strange and my<BR>goodness how many times have some of these isssues been hashed before?<BR> <BR>Dan Curtis<BR>________________________________<BR>From: Scott McHarg <<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scmcharg@gmail.com" rel=nofollow
target=_blank ymailto="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</A>><BR>To: General pattern discussion <<A href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 12:24:44 PM<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is available<BR>The NSRCA Board of Directors (BoD), in consideration of NSRCA bylaws indicating<BR>that the NSRCA should take responsibility for making a consensus statement to<BR>the AMA Rules Committee on rules pertaining to Radio Control Aerobatics, has<BR>convened a Rules Proposal Committee. The purpose of this committee is to<BR>prepare candidate rule proposals for endorsement by the NSRCA BoD. The<BR>committee is chaired by Scott McHarg and its members include Jon Carter, John<BR>Gayer, Michael McEvilley, and
Rick Sweeney.<BR> <BR>The NSRCA BoD requested the rules committee to craft proposals with a focus on<BR>safety and contestant participation concerns. The rules committee was further<BR>requested to craft proposals in consideration of the varying and oftentimes<BR>conflicting opinions of the individuals that comprise the AMA pattern community,<BR>while recognizing that change is warranted. In response to NSRCA BoD direction,<BR>the rules committee has developed four (4) candidate proposals for endorsement<BR>by the NSRCA BoD.<BR> <BR>In the spirit reflected by the direction of the NSRCA BoD, this survey is<BR>offered to provide the AMA pattern community the opportunity to review,<BR>consider, and provide feedback by supporting or not supporting each of the<BR>candidate proposals to the NSRCA BoD. This survey is not a vote; it is only a<BR>means for the NSRCA BoD to gather information to be used in making their final<BR>determination
of those proposals to be endorsed by the NSRCA.<BR> <BR>The NSRCA BoD encourages your support in responding to the survey as the changes<BR>are believed to be appropriate for the continued growth and sustainment of AMA<BR>pattern. <BR> <BR>Finally, it should be understood that individual AMA members are free to submit<BR>commentary on these proposals to the AMA Contest Board, and are also able to<BR>submit individual proposals on the same topics as those endorsed by the NSRCA<BR>BoD.<BR> This survey will be available until midnight March 1, 2012 and may be taken<BR>only once. The survey is available at <A href="http://www.nsrca.us/" rel=nofollow target=_blank>www.nsrca.us</A> and you must be registered<BR>with the website and logged in but being a current member is NOT required. <BR>Thank you for your understanding and participation in this rules proposal<BR>survey.<BR>--<BR>Scott A. McHarg</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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