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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Peter I
did exactly what you are suggesting by sending my suggestions for changes to
the initial proposal directly to Scott for the contest board's consideration
when writing the final proposal to be submitted to AMA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I didn't
post it here because these discussion topics quickly deteriorate to off subject
usually private conversations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Of all the
posts today I haven't seen any discussion on the content of the proposals. If
we fail to express constructive suggestions the proposals will likely be
submitted in their present configuration.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I apologize
in advance if some of you find my remarks offensive it isn't meant to be.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle18><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Peter Vogel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, February 11, 2012
2:59 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey isavailable</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I fail to see
why the board's opinion on the rules proposals as written is relevant.
They are doing what I would expect the board of an org like outs to do:
asking the membership for their opinions on the proposals. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The only
thing I would have liked to see was a fourth option on the survey questions:
' I would support this proposal with modifications: ' with a text
field for verbatim feedback on the modifications. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Peter+<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone4S</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
On Feb 11, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Dan Curtis <<a href="mailto:warrior523@att.net">warrior523@att.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>That is not what is written in the
introduction. I would like to see each board member answer the question
on this membership list, are they for it as it is stated or are they for the
process in general?</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Dan</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;margin-left:1.0in'><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'> Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sat, February 11, 2012
2:49:29 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is available<br>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><br>
Dan,<br>
I guess you'd have to ask each individual member of the BoD.
I can tell you that prior to finalizing what you see as a candidate proposal,
we presented where we were and what we were working on to the BoD in a
telephonic meeting. Although they did not have the proposals in their
hand, each proposal was explained and the floor was open for discussion.
Not one single person said something to the contrary other than they felt we
were doing a good job and we were on the right track. That says to me
that we were pursuing what was asked of us. The survey will then tell us
if our community feels the same.<br>
<br>
Scott</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Dan
Curtis <<a href="mailto:warrior523@att.net" target="_blank" rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:warrior523@att.net">warrior523@att.net</a>> wrote:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>As I asked in the previous post, does the current board feel that
these proposals are valid and good for the pattern community. This is
what is states in the survey introduction and is this a fact?</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
0in;margin-left:76.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
0in;margin-left:76.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>The survey could have also had a question asking if the membership
or the community feels that any changes are needed at this point and time.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
0in;margin-left:76.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>This survey, with its introduction statement, seems to show a bit
of predispostion. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:
black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Dan</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> Scott McHarg <<a
href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></font><font
color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font color=black
face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;color:black'> Sat, February 11,
2012 2:29:53 PM </span></font><font color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is available</span></font><font
color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-family:Tahoma;color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><br>
Gentlemen,<br>
As you can see from the forums, everyone of us has our own
opinion. The BoD asked us to make "proposals". These are
not "the rules" nor are they set in stone. We came up with said
proposals based on input from individuals who took the time to email, phone and
post their requests. The survey is doing exactly what it was meant to do,
get everyone's opinion based on what we laid out there. If you don't like
it, that's fine. This is simply a starting point. The results of
the survey will tell us whether we are on, off or close to what our community
wants. Once the survey finishes, the results will be taken back and, if
needed, proposals amended. I'd suggest that the results will indicate
what percentile are in favor of vs. those that are against. I don't think
any of you would expect everyone that flies pattern to get in a room and try to
formulate proposals based on every single opinion in that room. That
would be a nightmare.<br>
The Board of Directors recognize that change is a <u>possibility</u>
but not necessarily warranted in all cases. Again, that would be the
purpose of the focus group to try to get something done and out there for the
community to weigh in on. At that point, the amended proposals are then
taken to the BoD for endorsement and then to the AMA Rules Committee which, in
reality, is the group that must find out if these proposals are realistic and
what the community wants. AMA owns precision aerobatics, not the NSRCA
and the NSRCA does not make the rules. The 5500g rule came from other
development classes that are around the world i.e. France and South
Africa who have implemented said changes to their development classes.
MAYBE the number is off to an extent. MAYBE we don't need that kind of
increase. I guess that's what the survey will tell us. I'd suggest
telling all that you know to get out there and take the survey if you feel
strongly about something. This is how we begin the process.<br>
<br>
Scott</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Vicente "Vince" Bortone
<<a href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel=nofollow
ymailto="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</span></font><font
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>So is this a second survey? I remember one few months ago
and didn't have those proposals. I am confused now.<br>
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Vicente "Vince" Bortone</span></font><font color=black><span
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color:black'>----- Original Message -----<br>
From: Dan Curtis &<a href="mailto:lt%3Bwarrior523@att.net" target="_blank"
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Sent: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:17:53 -0000 (UTC)<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is
available<br>
I was re-reading the post about the survey and am really having a problem with<br>
the 4th paragraph. It says:<br>
The NSRCA BoD encourages your support in responding to the survey as the
changes<br>
are believed to be appropriate for the continued growth and sustainment of AMA<br>
pattern. <br>
<br>
Is this actually saying that our board of directors is for the changes stated
in<br>
the survey. This is really hard to believe and even harder to fathom.<br>
<br>
Where did these "candidate rule proposals" come from? Why the
5500 gram weight<br>
rule? Where did that one come from? This whole thing seems strange
and my<br>
goodness how many times have some of these isssues been hashed before?<br>
<br>
Dan Curtis<br>
________________________________<br>
From: Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank"
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Sent: Fri, February 10, 2012 12:24:44 PM<br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] NSRCA candidate rules proposal survey is available<br>
The NSRCA Board of Directors (BoD), in consideration of NSRCA bylaws indicating<br>
that the NSRCA should take responsibility for making a consensus statement to<br>
the AMA Rules Committee on rules pertaining to Radio Control Aerobatics, has<br>
convened a Rules Proposal Committee. The purpose of this committee is to<br>
prepare candidate rule proposals for endorsement by the NSRCA BoD. The<br>
committee is chaired by Scott McHarg and its members include Jon Carter, John<br>
Gayer, Michael McEvilley, and Rick Sweeney.<br>
<br>
The NSRCA BoD requested the rules committee to craft proposals with a focus on<br>
safety and contestant participation concerns. The rules committee was
further<br>
requested to craft proposals in consideration of the varying and oftentimes<br>
conflicting opinions of the individuals that comprise the AMA pattern
community,<br>
while recognizing that change is warranted. In response to NSRCA BoD direction,<br>
the rules committee has developed four (4) candidate proposals for endorsement<br>
by the NSRCA BoD.<br>
<br>
In the spirit reflected by the direction of the NSRCA BoD, this survey is<br>
offered to provide the AMA pattern community the opportunity to review,<br>
consider, and provide feedback by supporting or not supporting each of the<br>
candidate proposals to the NSRCA BoD. This survey is not a vote; it is
only a<br>
means for the NSRCA BoD to gather information to be used in making their final<br>
determination of those proposals to be endorsed by the NSRCA.<br>
<br>
The NSRCA BoD encourages your support in responding to the survey as the
changes<br>
are believed to be appropriate for the continued growth and sustainment of AMA<br>
pattern. <br>
<br>
Finally, it should be understood that individual AMA members are free to submit<br>
commentary on these proposals to the AMA Contest Board, and are also able to<br>
submit individual proposals on the same topics as those endorsed by the NSRCA<br>
BoD.<br>
This survey will be available until midnight March 1, 2012 and may be
taken<br>
only once. The survey is available at <a href="http://www.nsrca.us/"
target="_blank" rel=nofollow>www.nsrca.us</a> and you must be registered<br>
with the website and logged in but being a current member is NOT
required. <br>
Thank you for your understanding and participation in this rules proposal<br>
survey.<br>
--<br>
Scott A. McHarg</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
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