<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div>Bob,</div><div><br></div><div>That wouldn't be fair, Tou could fly a leaf blower and win ...lol</div><div><br></div><div>Arch</div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Feb 5, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Bob Richards <<a href="mailto:bob@toprudder.com">bob@toprudder.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>I heard there was interest in allowing electrics, but that option was dropped. Is that true? I would love SPA, but I have sworn off anything glow.</div>
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<div><br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 2/2/12, Jim Quinn <i><<a href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From: Jim Quinn <<a href="mailto:jaqfly@prodigy.net">jaqfly@prodigy.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relatingtonewFAIrules<br>To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>Date: Thursday, February 2, 2012, 6:21 PM<br><br>
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<div>Classis Patern Association and the Vintage R/C Society both are currently flyng those patterns.</div>
<div>We even included one on an AMA sanctioned contest in CA this fall.</div>
<div>I've been flying in Rudder only (Junior Falcon and Charger) up to full house (Banshee and Kaos) for the past several years.<br> </div>Jim Quinn
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> J N Hiller <<a href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thu, February 2, 2012 4:55:13 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relatingtonewFAIrules<br></font><br>
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<p class="yiv1692833949MsoNormal"><span class="yiv1692833949EmailStyle22"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Are some folks trying to revitalize the pre-turnaround pattern. Classic Pattern! I'm waiting, still have two OS VF's and can scratch build another Arrow. Can't make 105 db any more at my primary field but that’s OK the airplane flue better with a 12-9 or 10 anyway.</span></font></span></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="yiv1692833949MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original Message-----<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Del<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 02, 2012 12:51 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relatingtonewFAIrules</span></font></p></div>
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<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="yiv1692833949MsoNormal"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="3" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Your right Peter.. The beauty of that period of flying anyone with an Ugly stick or under powered kadet could enter and fly pattern. Attendance at meets was amazing at most parts of country. That style did get some heat as blamed for loss of fields from over flights of homes etc. but if the full truth were to be looked at all flying endeavors loud and noisy aircraft flying near and over homes was the bigger culprit. Pattern was at the forefront of addressing that and mandating a reasonable sound level at the nats especially but bonus points could be award for quiet aircraft and penalties for noisy planes. </span></font></b></strong><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: black"></span></font></p></div>
<p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="yiv1692833949MsoNormal"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="3" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </span></font></b></strong><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: black"></span></font>
</p><p style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class="yiv1692833949MsoNormal"><strong><b><font color="blue" size="3" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: blue; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">The other big advantage was as recently petitioned people would come out and enjoy themselves flying after only practicing the weekend before if at all and do fairly well sometimes. The changes have hurt overall mass attendance but the quality of the flying by competitors has improved dramatically. Some like that tradeoff. Others not so much. Partially because of increased expenses to compete means they can't participate and still feel they made a reasonable showing. </span></font></b></strong><font color="black"><span style="COLOR: black"></span></font>
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</span></font></b></p><div><b><font color="black" size="2" face="Arial">From:</font></b><font color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <a title="vogel.peter@gmail.com" href="http://us.mc1616.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vogel.peter@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">Peter Vogel</a> </span></font></div><font color="black" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></span></font>
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