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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Your right Peter.. The beauty of
that period of flying anyone with an Ugly stick or under powered kadet could
enter and fly pattern. Attendance at meets was amazing at most parts of country.
That style did get some heat as blamed for loss of fields from over flights of
homes etc. but if the full truth were to be looked at all flying endeavors loud
and noisy aircraft flying near and over homes was the bigger culprit. Pattern
was at the forefront of addressing that and mandating a reasonable sound level
at the nats especially but bonus points could be award for quiet aircraft and
penalties for noisy planes. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>The other big advantage was as
recently petitioned people would come out and enjoy themselves flying after only
practicing the weekend before if at all and do fairly well sometimes. The
changes have hurt overall mass attendance but the quality of the flying by
competitors has improved dramatically. Some like that tradeoff. Others not so
much. Partially because of increased expenses to compete means they can't
participate and still feel they made a reasonable showing.
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>
Del</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=vogel.peter@gmail.com href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">Peter
Vogel</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 02, 2012 3:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd:
Another discussion topic relating tonewFAIrules</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>OK. Looking at some of the old rule books, I'm confused.
Take for example the novice sequence from 86-87:
<DIV>Takeoff</DIV>
<DIV>Straight flight out (U)</DIV>
<DIV>Procedure turn</DIV>
<DIV>Straight flight back (D)</DIV>
<DIV>Stall Turn (U)</DIV>
<DIV>Immelmann Turn (U)</DIV>
<DIV>3 inside loops (U)</DIV>
<DIV>One horizontal roll (D)</DIV>
<DIV>Landing</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>The procedure turn, stall turn, and Immelmann sure seem like turnarounds
to me, granted to meet the mandatory directions relative to wind you would
need to have a free turnaround between the straight flight back and the stall
turn, and another free turnaround between the stall and the Immelmann, etc.
So were all the "stunt" turns intended to be executed at show center
with a free turnaround outside the box between each maneuver? </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>I'm amazed at the amount of "heat" (aka: passion) there seems to have
been in the K-factor around the change to turnaround schedules. I admit
I like my 2 "free" turnarounds outside the box in Sportsman between maneuvers
6+7 and 11+12 but I could muddle through without them if I had to, and I
honestly can't imagine flying such a disjoint sequence as the ones I'm seeing
in the old rulebooks. Hardly feels like a "sequence".</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Peter+</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:43 AM, J N Hiller <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The sequences flown were
published in the old rule books. Be aware that over the years some of the
class names changed.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Some time back I applied
K-factors to those non-turnaround schedules to try to understand the
migration of increasing difficulty, concluding that the K-factor alone is a
poor indicator of actual difficulty. But we all step up to the challenge
regardless of the difficulty.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </P>
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<DIV class=im><FONT color=black face=Tahoma>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Peter Vogel<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:23
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern
discussion<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=h5><FONT color=black face=Tahoma><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> NSRCA Discussion List<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd:
Another discussion topic relating tonew FAIrules</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<P></P>
<DIV>
<DIV class=h5>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I was reading some of
the archived K-factors and it got me curious, is there an archive of the
sequences pre-turnaround?</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Peter+<BR><BR>Sent from
my iPhone4S</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Joe Lachowski
<<A href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com"
target=_blank>jlachow@hotmail.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT
color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">You
can log on at the NSRCA website and then proceed to the judges section
and click on archived documents. Thanks to Jim Hiller who provided me a lot
of these, I was able to scan them in and put them into the PDF Format.
Anyone who has anything older than whats up there, send a hard copy to me to
scan and I'll have Derek put them up.<BR> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT
color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:45:38 -0800<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"
target=_blank>derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Subject: Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules<BR><BR>We have a pretty good collection of AMA and FAI rule books
on the website if anyone wants to see what rules were like, or how much they
have changed over the years... </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT
color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Click on the link below:</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT
color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT
color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><A
href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/archiveddocuments"
target=_blank>http://nsrca.us/index.php/archiveddocuments</A> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in"
class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><FONT
color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On
Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jon Lowe <<A href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com"
target=_blank>jonlowe@aol.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">It would appear that the FAI is
going down the same road as IMAC, with IMAC's subjective "airspace control"
factor. The smoothness and gracefulness 25% gives a judge a
non-objective way to give a downgrade of 2 to 3 points. Since there is
no scoring criteria for it that I could find, other than Michael Ramel's
instructions to the judges at the WC, I'm not sure what we do with it.
I would think that his instructions would have been protestable, if anyone
had wanted to go down that path, since I'm unaware of any official FAI rule
interpretation saying, for example, that constant speed is a part of
smoothness and gracefulness. I'm sure he was just trying to give
meaning to a poorly writen criteria.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Very sorry to see the FAI going
this way.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Jon</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Mark Atwood <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com"
target=_blank>atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>><BR>To: General pattern
discussion <<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent: Tue, Jan 31,
2012 9:49 am<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion
topic relating to new FAIrules<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave, the answer, by your own
math, is that a geometrically perfect maneuver can't be beaten purely by
other criteria. With geometry making up 50% of the score, no amount
of smoothness can be valued MORE than precision.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I could also argue that a
geometrically "perfect" maneuver would always have at least some level of
gracefulness based on that perfect geometry. They're not completely
independent. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U><U></U><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Unfortunately S&G is
completely subjective, and as analytical people, we're not too keen on
subjectivity. But that's the nature of the sport. It's perceived
precision, not measured. Vertical lines at the end of the box
don't need to BE vertical, they need to LOOK vertical, etc.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If we want purely objective
scoring... look to racing. Go fast, bank left, pull.
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, <A
href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net" target=_blank>DaveL322@comcast.net</A>
wrote:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>There has never been
guidance for s+g downgrades in AMA or FAI.....which is why I have always
advocated s+g should be eliminated from the judging criteria. Of
course if I am mistaken about the goal of pattern being precision
aerobatics, then maybe s+g should be the only criteria.<BR><BR>I've never
gotten an answer to this question. How can a geometrically perfect
maneuver be outscored by a geometrically flawed maneuver? Of course
with the new FAI scoring.....it would seem that geometrically perfect
maneuver might only be scored a 5.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>Sent
from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">----- Reply message
-----<BR>From: "Ronald Van Putte" <<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net"
target=_blank>vanputte@cox.net</A>><BR>Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2012
09:49<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating
to new FAIrules<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">After thinking about this
further, I wonder how the change in ranking affects anything.
Positioning has specific downgrades (2 point downgrade for each 1/4 of
the maneuver off center). However, I am unaware of any specific
downgrades for smoothness and gracefulness. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">General pattern discussion
<<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
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</SPAN></FONT></B><B><FONT color=black size=4 face=Helvetica><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">General pattern discussion
<<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black face=Arial><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">That's interesting. I know
#2. and #3. were in reverse order before. I don't remember a rules
change vote on this. <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ron Van
Putte<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Bob
Kane wrote:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">FWIW, this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA
Competition regulations:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">From the current AMA document
(RCA-12):<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=black face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">1.</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Precision of the
maneuver.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">2.</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Smoothness and gracefulness of
the maneuver. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">3.</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Positioning or display of the
maneuver.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">4. </SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Size or dimensions of the maneuver
relative to the maneuvering area, distance from the judges, and other
maneuvers in the flight. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The above criteria are listed in order of
importance; however, all of them must be met for a maneuver to be rated
perfect. </SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Bob Kane <A href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com"
target=_blank>getterflash@yahoo.com</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B></DIV><FONT
color=black face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">J N Hiller <<A
href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net"
target=_blank>jnhiller@earthlink.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:51
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I would have
thought positioning rated a higher precision aerobatics. Smoothness and
gracefulness is polish.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A
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target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [NSRCA-discussion] Another
discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This will keep the list going
(and the discussions too). I recall Michael Ramel clearly discussing
the future of the rules during the judges training at the World
Championships at Muncie. This was relating to smoothness and
gracefulness being directly related to constant speed. The following
reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score
is awarded:</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Geometry:
50%</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Smoothness and Gracefulness:
25%</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Position of maneuver:
12.5%</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Size of maneuver:
12.5%</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Proportion of the maneuver
outside the (box) in addition to above.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The specific, objective criteria
used to judge smoothness and gracefulness includes, "maintaining constant
speed throughout various maneuver components, like climbing and decending
sections..."</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Also the sentence about radii
being very loose or very tight, even if equal size within a
maneuver, are grounds for downgrade of smoothness and
gracefulness.</SPAN></FONT><FONT
color=black><SPAN><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cheers,</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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