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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Amen Verne ~~ and me too.. I got
tired of the head bleeds from the bashing against stone walls..
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Del</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern
discussion'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd:
Another discussion topicrelatingto new FAIrules</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">When I flew Advanced
in the 1990 Nats, Sportsman (now Intermediate) and Advanced shared the same
flight line and the switch was all anybody was talking about and it was very
heated as you recall. I remember a bunch of Sportsman guys saying that if we
went to all turnaround, they wouldn’t be back. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I think the
Sportsman (now Intermediate) class saw the biggest decline when it changed to
turnaround and it’s taken a long time to get it back. I feel fortunate to have
come up through the system where everything was a center maneuver. Back
then, you could really focus on the geometry and precision of a maneuver and
then get a short breather while you turned around without being scored and
without being confined to a box. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">I also remember the
Sportsman class pretty much funding local contests because it was occupied
mostly by local guys who rarely traveled more than 80 – 100 miles to compete.
You could go to another region a couple hundred miles away and there’d be a
whole different group of ten or so guys flying in Sportsman there. All those
guys did a pretty credible job without spending the money and time it takes to
be competitive now. I think it’s unfortunate that we don’t start off pilots
that way now and campaigned for it for a long time. I finally got tired of all
the arguments pro and con and gave up.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Verne<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>J N
Hiller<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 6:43 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another
discussion topic relatingto new FAIrules<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle29><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Verne, I also flue expert turnaround, advancing to
masters when it was discontinued.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle29><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">After flying turnaround in sport aerobatics, commonly
referred to as IMAC I had already been indoctrinated and didn't care to fly
another full throttle half reverse cuban eight a 1/3 of a mile
out.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle29><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">You
probably also remember the sometimes heated pro and con discussions appearing
in the model press leading up to the change. It was an interesting
time.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle29><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=EmailStyle29><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
<A
href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</A><B>On
Behalf Of </B>Verne Koester<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:24
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'General pattern discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relatingto new
FAIrules</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Hi
Peter,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">If you want to see
how AMA pattern looked prior to turnaround, download the 1988-89 rulebook. FAI
had already started flying turnaround but it naturally won’t appear in the
rulebooks. If you also download the 1990-91 rulebook, you’ll see how the
transition started. Masters went from a “build your own” schedule to a fixed
set of non-turnaround maneuvers and Expert was introduced as the first AMA
all-turnaround schedule. You then have to download 92-93 rulebook and the
94-95 version to see the transition progress. Along the way, Expert was
dropped and Advanced and Masters were made all turnaround.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">We lost a BUNCH of
competitors as all of this took place who didn’t want to make the transition.
As time went on, the transition filtered down through the classes to what we
have today. To see how it took place, One only needs to look at the schedules
and how they changed from 1988 through 1995. Each rulebook in between those
periods made changes to complete the transition.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Verne
Koester<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">BTW, I was one of
many who opposed the changes because I could see we were going to lose a bunch
of guys in the process but I was too hooked to walk away. I could see the
writing on the wall and made the transition. In 1990, I flew Advanced at the
Nats (pre-turnaround) and in 1991 I flew Expert Turnaround at the Nats. When
Expert was dropped in 1992, those in that class had the option of going to
Advanced which was now turnaround but easier than Expert or Masters which was
also made all-turnaround but harder than Expert.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
<A
href="mailto:[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]">[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]</A>
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Peter Vogel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:23
PM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion<BR><B>Cc:</B> NSRCA Discussion
List<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic
relating to new FAIrules</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I was
reading some of the archived K-factors and it got me curious, is there an
archive of the sequences pre-turnaround?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="COLOR: black">Peter+<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone4S</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><BR>On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:18 AM,
Joe Lachowski <<A
href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">jlachow@hotmail.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">You can log on at the NSRCA
website and then proceed to the judges section and click on archived
documents. Thanks to Jim Hiller who provided me a lot of these, I was able to
scan them in and put them into the PDF Format. Anyone who has anything older
than whats up there, send a hard copy to me to scan and I'll have Derek put
them up.<BR> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:45:38
-0800<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules<BR><BR>We have a pretty good collection of AMA and FAI rule books on
the website if anyone wants to see what rules were like, or how much they have
changed over the years... </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Click on the link
below:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><A
href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/archiveddocuments"
target=_blank>http://nsrca.us/index.php/archiveddocuments</A> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:17 AM,
Jon Lowe <<A href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</A>>
wrote:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">It would appear that
the FAI is going down the same road as IMAC, with IMAC's subjective "airspace
control" factor. The smoothness and gracefulness 25% gives a judge a
non-objective way to give a downgrade of 2 to 3 points. Since there is
no scoring criteria for it that I could find, other than Michael Ramel's
instructions to the judges at the WC, I'm not sure what we do with it. I
would think that his instructions would have been protestable, if anyone had
wanted to go down that path, since I'm unaware of any official FAI rule
interpretation saying, for example, that constant speed is a part of
smoothness and gracefulness. I'm sure he was just trying to give meaning
to a poorly writen criteria.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Very sorry to see the
FAI going this way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Jon</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR>From: Mark Atwood <<A
href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</A>><BR>To:
General pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>Sent:
Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:49 am<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another
discussion topic relating to new FAIrules<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave,
the answer, by your own math, is that a geometrically perfect maneuver can't
be beaten purely by other criteria. With geometry making up 50% of the
score, no amount of smoothness can be valued MORE than precision.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
could also argue that a geometrically "perfect" maneuver would always have at
least some level of gracefulness based on that perfect geometry. They're
not completely independent. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Unfortunately
S&G is completely subjective, and as analytical people, we're not too keen
on subjectivity. But that's the nature of the sport. It's
perceived precision, not measured. Vertical lines at the end of
the box don't need to BE vertical, they need to LOOK vertical, etc.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If we
want purely objective scoring... look to racing. Go fast, bank left,
pull. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On
Jan 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, <A
href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>There
has never been guidance for s+g downgrades in AMA or FAI.....which is why I
have always advocated s+g should be eliminated from the judging criteria.
Of course if I am mistaken about the goal of pattern being precision
aerobatics, then maybe s+g should be the only criteria.<BR><BR>I've never
gotten an answer to this question. How can a geometrically perfect
maneuver be outscored by a geometrically flawed maneuver? Of course with
the new FAI scoring.....it would seem that geometrically perfect maneuver
might only be scored a 5.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>Sent from my HTC
on the Now Network from Sprint!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----
Reply message -----<BR>From: "Ronald Van Putte" <<A
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>><BR>Date: Tue, Jan 31,
2012 09:49<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic
relating to new FAIrules<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">After
thinking about this further, I wonder how the change in ranking affects
anything. Positioning has specific downgrades (2 point downgrade for
each 1/4 of the maneuver off center). However, I am unaware of any
specific downgrades for smoothness and gracefulness. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ron
Van Putte<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Begin
forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:
</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Ronald
Van Putte <<A
href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Date:
</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">January
31, 2012 8:24:56 AM CST</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">To:
</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">General
pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Subject:
</SPAN></B><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Reply-To:
</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt">General
pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">That's
interesting. I know #2. and #3. were in reverse order before. I
don't remember a rules change vote on this. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Ron
Van Putte<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">On
Jan 31, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Bob Kane wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">FWIW, this is identical to to the
ranking in the AMA Competition regulations:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">From the current AMA document
(RCA-12):<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">1.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Precision of the maneuver.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">2.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Smoothness and gracefulness of the
maneuver. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">3.</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Positioning or display of the
maneuver.</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">4.
</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Size or dimensions of
the maneuver relative to the maneuvering area, distance from the judges, and
other maneuvers in the flight. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The above
criteria are listed in order of importance; however, all of them must be met
for a maneuver to be rated perfect. </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Bob Kane <A
href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</A><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black"> J N Hiller <<A
href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</A>><BR><B>To:</B>
General pattern discussion <<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:51 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I
would have thought positioning rated a higher precision aerobatics. Smoothness
and gracefulness is polish.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Jim</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]<B>On
Behalf Of </B><A
href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, January 30, 2012 6:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-discussion] Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: black"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">This
will keep the list going (and the discussions too). I recall Michael
Ramel clearly discussing the future of the rules during the judges training at
the World Championships at Muncie. This was relating to smoothness
and gracefulness being directly related to constant speed. The following
reflects what he discussed, as cited on page 35, and effect the way a score is
awarded:</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Geometry:
50%</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Smoothness
and Gracefulness: 25%</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Position
of maneuver: 12.5%</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Size
of maneuver: 12.5%</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Proportion
of the maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
specific, objective criteria used to judge smoothness and gracefulness
includes, "maintaining constant speed throughout various maneuver components,
like climbing and decending sections..."</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 2in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 1.5in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"
class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Also
the sentence about radii being very loose or very tight, even
if equal size within a maneuver, are grounds for downgrade of
smoothness and gracefulness.</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Cheers,</SPAN><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Don</SPAN><SPAN
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