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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle23><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>OOps I
failed to mention that I believe you need to be logged in to see the list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Peter Vogel<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012
11:23 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> NSRCA Discussion List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Fwd: Another discussion topic relating tonew FAIrules</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I was reading
some of the archived K-factors and it got me curious, is there an archive of
the sequences pre-turnaround?</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<br>
Sent from my iPhone4S</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Jan 31, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Joe Lachowski <<a
href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">jlachow@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>You can log on at the NSRCA website
and then proceed to the judges section and click on archived documents. Thanks
to Jim Hiller who provided me a lot of these, I was able to scan them in and
put them into the PDF Format. Anyone who has anything older than whats up
there, send a hard copy to me to scan and I'll have Derek put them up.<br>
</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:45:38 -0800<br>
From: <a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules<br>
<br>
We have a pretty good collection of AMA and FAI rule books on the website if
anyone wants to see what rules were like, or how much they have changed over
the years... </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Click on the link below:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a
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color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]></span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:.5in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;margin-left:1.0in'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Jon Lowe
<<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">jonlowe@aol.com</a>> wrote:</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
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size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>It would appear that the FAI is going down the same road as IMAC,
with IMAC's subjective "airspace control" factor. The
smoothness and gracefulness 25% gives a judge a non-objective way to give a
downgrade of 2 to 3 points. Since there is no scoring criteria for it
that I could find, other than Michael Ramel's instructions to the judges at the
WC, I'm not sure what we do with it. I would think that his instructions
would have been protestable, if anyone had wanted to go down that path, since
I'm unaware of any official FAI rule interpretation saying, for
example, that constant speed is a part of smoothness and
gracefulness. I'm sure he was just trying to give meaning to a poorly
writen criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Very
sorry to see the FAI going this way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=4 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Jon</span></font><font color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Mark Atwood <<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>><br>
To: General pattern discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
Sent: Tue, Jan 31, 2012 9:49 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Dave, the answer, by your own math, is that a geometrically
perfect maneuver can't be beaten purely by other criteria. With geometry
making up 50% of the score, no amount of smoothness can be valued MORE than
precision. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:1.5in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>I could also argue that a geometrically "perfect"
maneuver would always have at least some level of gracefulness based on that
perfect geometry. They're not completely independent. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:1.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Unfortunately S&G is completely subjective, and as analytical
people, we're not too keen on subjectivity. But that's the nature of the
sport. It's perceived precision, not measured. Vertical
lines at the end of the box don't need to BE vertical, they need to LOOK
vertical, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>If we want purely objective scoring... look to racing. Go
fast, bank left, pull. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black'>On Jan 31, 2012, at 10:37 AM, <a href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</a>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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There has never been guidance for s+g downgrades in AMA or FAI.....which is why
I have always advocated s+g should be eliminated from the judging criteria.
Of course if I am mistaken about the goal of pattern being precision
aerobatics, then maybe s+g should be the only criteria.<br>
<br>
I've never gotten an answer to this question. How can a geometrically
perfect maneuver be outscored by a geometrically flawed maneuver? Of
course with the new FAI scoring.....it would seem that geometrically perfect
maneuver might only be scored a 5.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Dave<br>
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Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: "Ronald Van Putte" <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a>><br>
Date: Tue, Jan 31, 2012 09:49<br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: Another discussion topic relating to new
FAIrules<br>
To: "General pattern discussion" <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>After thinking about this further, I wonder how the change in
ranking affects anything. Positioning has specific downgrades (2
point downgrade for each 1/4 of the maneuver off center). However, I am
unaware of any specific downgrades for smoothness and gracefulness. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From: </span></font></b><font size=4 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;color:black'>Ronald Van Putte <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a>></span></font><font
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Date: </span></font></b><font size=4 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;mso-bidi-font-family:
Arial;color:black'>January 31, 2012 8:24:56 AM CST</span></font><font size=2
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color:black;font-weight:bold'>To: </span></font></b><font size=4 color=black
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Arial;color:black'>General pattern discussion <<a
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>Subject: </span></font></b><b><font size=4
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mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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color:black;font-weight:bold'>Reply-To: </span></font></b><font size=4
color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:black'>General pattern discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></font><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>That's interesting. I know #2. and #3. were in reverse order
before. I don't remember a rules change vote on this. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Ron Van Putte<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Bob Kane wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>FWIW, this is identical to to the ranking in the AMA Competition
regulations:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>From the current AMA document (RCA-12):<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>1.</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Precision of the maneuver.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>2.</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Smoothness and gracefulness of the
maneuver. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>3.</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Positioning or display of the maneuver.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>4. </span></font></b><font size=2 color=black><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Size or dimensions of the maneuver
relative to the maneuvering area, distance from the judges, and other maneuvers
in the flight. </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
color:black'>The above criteria are listed in order of importance;
however, all of them must be met for a maneuver to be rated perfect. </span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'>Bob Kane <a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div style='MIN-HEIGHT: 0px'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial;color:black'> J N Hiller <<a
href="mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net">jnhiller@earthlink.net</a>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion
<<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January 31, 2012
3:51 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'><![if !supportEmptyParas]> <![endif]><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>I would have thought positioning rated a higher precision
aerobatics. Smoothness and gracefulness is polish.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Jim</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><a
href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 30, 2012
6:06 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Another discussion topic relating to new FAIrules</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>This will keep the list going (and the discussions too). I
recall Michael Ramel clearly discussing the future of the rules during the
judges training at the World Championships at Muncie. This
was relating to smoothness and gracefulness being directly related to
constant speed. The following reflects what he discussed, as cited on
page 35, and effect the way a score is awarded:</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Geometry: 50%</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Smoothness and Gracefulness: 25%</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Position of maneuver: 12.5%</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Size of maneuver: 12.5%</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Proportion of the maneuver outside the (box) in addition to above.</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
solid #CCCCCC .75pt;padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>The specific, objective criteria used to judge smoothness and
gracefulness includes, "maintaining constant speed throughout various
maneuver components, like climbing and decending sections..."</span></font><font
color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:2.0in;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3.0in;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Also the sentence about radii being very loose or very tight,
even if equal size within a maneuver, are grounds for downgrade
of smoothness and gracefulness.</span></font><font color=black><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'> </span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Cheers,</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'>Don</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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