<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Or that we have the largest combination of population base, standard of living, and most importantly the freedom to choose to do what we want with our free time...</div><div><br></div><div>Jerry<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jan 30, 2012, at 3:22 PM, "Del" <<a href="mailto:drykert2@rochester.rr.com">drykert2@rochester.rr.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div><strong><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Maybe part of the reason we have the
largest group of precision aerobatic participants is because of the AMA classes
that are currently used. Much effort went into creating and tweaking these
classes with the hope to make it enticing and progressive for the pilots.
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><b>From:</b>
<a title="vicenterc@comcast.net" href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">Vicente
"Vince" Bortone</a> </div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 30, 2012 4:16
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI A-12
local advanced sequence</div>
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<p>Hi Derek:</p>
<p> </p>
<p>OK, here are some advantages I could think of. I am sure that there
are more:</p>
<p><br>1. Young pilots will see more light at the end of tunnel. I am
sure that they want to reach FAI-F3A levels and learn to fly the most
difficult schedules as they make progress. Clearly these
sequences provide more natural transition and help the new blood to
get ready for the WC. I think if we adopt this schedules there will be
less chance that we don't have junior pilots in the WC. I believe this
is the most important single reason.</p>
<p>2. Judging becomes more accurate and easier to digest for all. The
backbones of sequences are very similar. Therefore, we really don't need
to memorize the whole schedule and we can concentrate in the most important
details when judging. </p>
<p>3. If we adopt the schedule means that we more open in
accepting what other countries are doing in pattern. I don't
see why this is bad for us. It is clear that we have been copying
here and there the old P schedules maneuvers when designing the new AMA
Masters. Actually, I think is good for us. It is clear that we
have the largest group of pattern pilots than any country in the
world. If we adopt these schedules they will be more willing to do
more pattern stuff around the pattern stuff we are doing. In a
nutshell becomes more USA schedules since we will have a lot
more pilots flying these international schedules. </p>
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<p>I really don't see any disadvantages. </p>
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<p>Thanks,</p>
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<p>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Derek
Koopowitz &lt;<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: 'General pattern
discussion' &lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, 30
Jan 2012 14:50:11 -0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI A-12
local advanced sequence<br>What advantages does it have over using our own
home grown sequences? It is<br>easier than Masters and does NOT allow a way
for us to have sequences that<br>build on each other as you move from class to
class.<br>-----Original Message-----<br>From:
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of Vicente<br>"Vince" Bortone<br>Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:07
AM<br>To: General pattern discussion<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
A-12 local advanced sequence<br>Why not to adopt it? This have many
advantages. Probably Don wanted to<br>infer that. <br>Vicente "Vince"
Bortone<br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Derek Koopowitz
&lt;<a href="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: 'General pattern discussion'
&lt;<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, 30 Jan 2012
07:06:41 -0000 (UTC)<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI A-12 local
advanced sequence Don, The<br>intent of the A schedule is for those countries
that do not have a<br>formalized class structure much like we have in the USA.
so, no, it would<br>not be used at any contests in the US.<br>-Derek<br>From:
<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
On Behalf Of<br><a href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</a><br>Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 6:20
PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] FAI
A-12 local advanced sequence Sorry if this<br>has already been addresssed by
the NSRCA. If not, per FAI Sporting code:<br>"For 2012, (F3A) Schedule A-12 is
recommended to be flown in local<br>competitions so as to offer advanced
pilots a suitable way to achieve skills<br>to step up to P-13
Schedules."<br>Are there any local U.S. contests planning to run the A-12
class? Would this<br>be part of a new AMA class or a separate FAI class? Or is
this going to be<br>ignored since AMA already has Advanced (and Masters).
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