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    Use the ones with a failsafe switch. The Tech-aero regulators have
    an adjustable output. The Jaccio ones available here do not appear
    to be adjustable.&nbsp; It is nice to set the 2s lipo enough lower than
    the main regulator that there is no drain on the backup. Jim's
    suggestion of 6.3 and 6.0 volts is a good one. Then all you have to
    do is check the reserve charge before each flying session. <br>
    BTW, Keith Hoard and I have been flying this system since last
    spring without any issues using Tech-Aero regulators.<br>
    John<br>
    <br>
    On 1/23/2012 5:08 PM, Peter Vogel wrote:
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAGBB6kJi2jk17kyxRLaB9GuYMxoqh3==W2jsP3zRe81o7d6MLA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">I love this list, you learn something new everyday...
      &nbsp; My thinking here was that since my RX has two battery leads, one
      goes to a straight up 2S lipo, the other goes to the main 2S tap,
      the voltage from the main should always be lower than the primary
      RX battery so the RX will always use the primary unless something
      bad happens at which point any power, even some rippling power
      will be sufficient to bring the bird home safe. &nbsp;
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      <div>But, if that theory is wrong, what reg are folks using to get
        HV (7.4v) power?</div>
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      <div>Peter+<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Keith
          Hoard <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Peter,</div>
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              <div>&nbsp; You will still want to use a regulator since the
                ESC is causing the voltage to fluctuate (Castle calls it
                "Voltage Ripple") while running. The regulator chops off
                the voltage below where the volts are rippling. . .&nbsp;</div>
              <div>.</div>
              <div>And that's your technical 'esplanation of the day.&nbsp;<span
                  class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                    <br>
                    <div><span>Keith Hoard</span></div>
                    <div>Collierville, TN</div>
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                  <div><br>
                    On Jan 23, 2012, at 16:56, Peter Vogel &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
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                    <div>Ah. &nbsp;Now that's a good idea + point. &nbsp;And then,
                      in my case, where I'm running HV, I don't even
                      need a reg. &nbsp;That would provide true power
                      redundancy for almost no weight penalty, though it
                      does run the risk of yanking your RX out if your
                      main battery ejects, or, even if it doesn't yank
                      the Rx (which is held in by 6 servo leads after
                      all, it could yank the redundant battery lead
                      loose and the main system battery is of course
                      yanking itself, so you are left with no radio...
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                      <div>Scott, how do you come up with 20g savings?
                        &nbsp;What size Rx battery are you running? &nbsp;My TP
                        1350's weigh 76g, even 900's are in the 60+g
                        range.<br>
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                        <div>Peter+<br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                            On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Keith Hoard
                            <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">khoard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                <div>Only tap off two cells of your main
                                  pack. You can then use a regular
                                  regulator (as opposed to a non-regular
                                  regulator).&nbsp;<span><font
                                      color="#888888"><br>
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                                      <div><span>Keith Hoard</span></div>
                                      <div>Collierville, TN</div>
                                    </font></span></div>
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                                    <div><br>
                                      On Jan 23, 2012, at 16:49, Peter
                                      Vogel &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>And, of course, with a
                                        non-switching BEC off a 10s or
                                        even a 5s pack you would have
                                        massive heat issues as it tries
                                        to step down the voltage from
                                        18.5 volts to 7.2 or 6 volts,
                                        depending on whether you are
                                        running an HV or standard
                                        voltage setup, so the regulator
                                        would probably need a fan or
                                        heat sink of some sort, which
                                        likely negates any weight
                                        savings from not running with a
                                        second battery.
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                                        <div>Peter+<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                            Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:30
                                            PM, Scott McHarg <span
                                              dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com"
                                                target="_blank">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                              You have to be careful
                                              using the BEC, especially
                                              from CC because it is a
                                              switching regulator which
                                              cannot be run in
                                              parallel.&nbsp; It's really
                                              best not to use the BEC
                                              and set up a truly
                                              separate system.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              Scott
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                                                <div><br>
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                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at
                                                    4:28 PM, George
                                                    Kennie <span
                                                      dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:geobet4evr@gmail.com" target="_blank">geobet4evr@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div>Could a CC
                                                        BEC also be used
                                                        instead of a
                                                        reg.? I don't
                                                        know how much
                                                        curent is passed
                                                        by a reg. </div>
                                                      <div>Sounds good
                                                        cause it's a
                                                        bummer trying to
                                                        solder an extra
                                                        lead to the
                                                        Deans.</div>
                                                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                      <div>G.<br>
                                                        <br>
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                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>On Mon,
                                                          Jan 23, 2012
                                                          at 5:09 PM,
                                                          Scott McHarg <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          Guys,<br>
                                                          &nbsp;&nbsp; Chris Moon
                                                          just e-mailed
                                                          me about some
                                                          leads that
                                                          were done at
                                                          the factory.&nbsp;
                                                          These leads
                                                          run off your
                                                          balance leads
                                                          to a voltage
                                                          regulator and
                                                          allow your
                                                          main battery
                                                          pack to be
                                                          utilized as a
                                                          redundant
                                                          receiver
                                                          battery.&nbsp; It
                                                          is NOT meant
                                                          to be a
                                                          primary but it
                                                          will save 20+
                                                          grams if
                                                          you're running
                                                          2 rx
                                                          batteries.&nbsp;
                                                          You still have
                                                          to run the 2nd
                                                          regulator for
                                                          true
                                                          redundancy but
                                                          you eliminate
                                                          the 2nd
                                                          battery.&nbsp;
                                                          These leads
                                                          are factory
                                                          made and
                                                          eliminate the
                                                          need to make
                                                          them yourself
                                                          with the
                                                          concern about
                                                          plugging in to
                                                          the wrong
                                                          cell.&nbsp; I know
                                                          in my article,
                                                          I was pretty
                                                          much against
                                                          doing this as
                                                          a backup but,
                                                          with Chris
                                                          having this
                                                          made at the
                                                          factory, he
                                                          has all but
                                                          eliminated
                                                          making a
                                                          mistake by
                                                          tying to the
                                                          wrong cell.&nbsp; I
                                                          have the link
                                                          that I'll
                                                          e-mail you
                                                          off-list or
                                                          you can just
                                                          go to his
                                                          website.&nbsp; I
                                                          don't want to
                                                          break the
                                                          NSRCA list
                                                          rules by
                                                          advertising
                                                          for him even
                                                          though he
                                                          advertises
                                                          with the
                                                          NSRCA.&nbsp; The
                                                          leads are only
                                                          $3.99 each and
                                                          are found
                                                          under the
                                                          Connectors/Adapters
                                                          listing.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Thank,<br>
                                                          Scott<span><font
color="#888888"><br clear="all">
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
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                                                          A. McHarg</font></b><br>
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