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    My 350 mah 2s battery with some velcro is 30 grams. A tech-aero
    regulator with switch wired with a jst connector for the battery and
    no charge cable weighs 25 grams. <br>
    This is not the standard configuration but Ed will wire it this way
    if you ask. I use a jst as most batteries in this size (250-500 mah
    2s) come pre-wired with a jst connector, therefore no rewiring or
    splices.<br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    On 1/24/2012 10:48 AM, Wayne Galligan wrote:
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          <div>How much does a redundant LiPo and regulator weight?</div>
          <div>I guess I have been away from this stuff too long...
            these electrons are heavy things.</div>
          <div>&nbsp;</div>
          <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE:
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              <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                    title="anthonyr105@hotmail.com"
                    href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com">Anthony Romano</a>
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                <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:38 AM</div>
                <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                    href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Main battery
                  redundant lead for receiver</div>
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            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Because an 1100mah A123 is 39g for the cell
              alone!<br>
              &nbsp;<br>
              Anthony<br>
              &nbsp;<br>
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                From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wcgalligan@att.net">wcgalligan@att.net</a><br>
                To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
                Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 11:30:08 -0600<br>
                Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Main battery redundant
                lead for receiver<br>
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                    <div>After all this discussion about extra wire
                      connectors and regulators, etc., etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;
                      Interesting as it seems.</div>
                    <div>Why not use an 1100 mil A123 pack for the
                      receiver without the regulator.<em>&nbsp; </em>I
                      haven't weighed the difference but it couldn&#8217;t be
                      that much.</div>
                    <div>Sounds like your going for a lot extra work to
                      save a few &#8220;Grams&#8221;.&nbsp; </div>
                    <div>&nbsp;</div>
                    <div>Simplicity rules.</div>
                    <div>&nbsp;</div>
                    <div style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: #000000;
                      FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Wayne Galligan<br>
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                        <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                          <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                              title="khoard@gmail.com"
                              href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">Keith Hoard</a>
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                          <div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 24, 2012
                            10:01 AM</div>
                          <div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                              href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General
                              pattern discussion</a> </div>
                          <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
                            Main battery redundant lead for receiver</div>
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                      <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                      small; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; TEXT-DECORATION: none">Anthony,<br>
                      <br>
                      &nbsp;&nbsp; On a typical flight, I'm guessing the radio
                      only uses around 100-150Mah of power, while the
                      motor is using 4000Mah, so that's about 4% more
                      draw on those two cells.&nbsp; In practice, I haven't
                      been able to see any difference in the radio cells
                      when I hook them up to my charger at the end of a
                      flight.&nbsp; Sometimes cells #1 &amp; #2 are the high
                      cells after a flight, so I think the power draw of
                      the radio is negligible to our motor packs.<br>
                      <br>
                      The problem with two regulators plugged into the
                      same 10S (or 5S) pack is that you are creating a
                      dead short between the cells thru the ground wires
                      (typically a straight wire thru the regulator).&nbsp; <br>
                      <br>
                      Say you plug Regulator #1 into cells #1&amp;2, and
                      Regulator #2 into cells #6&amp;7.&nbsp; The regulator's
                      <b><i>ground </i></b>wires now have 5 cells of
                      voltage potential (5 X 4.2V = 21Volts) between
                      them since they are plugged into cells # 1 and
                      #6.&nbsp; When those two ground wires are then plugged
                      into your receiver either thru a switch or direct
                      connection the magic smoke will escape and your
                      retailer will rejoice.<br>
                      <br>
                      Also, if you have both of your regulators plugged
                      into your motor pack and the packs eject like
                      Goose in Top Gun, you've lost both of your
                      redundant power sources.&nbsp; However, if you use a
                      tiny 2S LiPo that is physically separated and
                      secured inside your plane, you have both
                      electrical and physical redundancy.&nbsp; <br>
                      <br>
                      Hmmm, just thought of something . . . maybe we
                      should tie down the receiver so the main regulator
                      can't take the receiver out with it. . . so many
                      contingencies, so little weight . . .<br
                        clear="all">
                      <br>
                      Keith Hoard<br>
                      Collierville, TN<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a><br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
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                      <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 24, 2012
                        at 8:15 AM, Anthony Romano <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com">anthonyr105@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Seems like a great idea but I
                              have two questions. Do the packs come down
                              out of balance since two cells are serving
                              extra load? Is there a problem with
                              parallel operation of two regulators?<br>
                              &nbsp;<br>
                              Thanks,<br>
                              &nbsp;<br>
                              Anthony<br>
                              &nbsp;<br>
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                                <hr> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com">joddino@socal.rr.com</a><br>
                                Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:25:00 -0800<br>
                                To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Main
                                battery redundant lead for receiver<br>
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                                I've been using this setup for sometime
                                and it is working great.&nbsp; I have my two
                                cell LiPo charged to 7.5 volts and it is
                                connected to a 6.0 volt regulator into
                                the receiver.&nbsp; The cable connected to
                                the balance connector on the "bottom" 5S
                                is connected to a 6.3 volt regulator so
                                it supplies all the current to the
                                system and the 2S pack never needs
                                charging.&nbsp; I'm using an 800 mAh pack but
                                it could be even smaller.&nbsp;&nbsp;
                                <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                <div>Jim O<br>
                                  <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                                      <div>On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:09 PM,
                                        Scott McHarg wrote:</div>
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                                      <blockquote>Guys,<br>
                                        &nbsp;&nbsp; Chris Moon just e-mailed me
                                        about some leads that were done
                                        at the factory.&nbsp; These leads run
                                        off your balance leads to a
                                        voltage regulator and allow your
                                        main battery pack to be utilized
                                        as a redundant receiver
                                        battery.&nbsp; It is NOT meant to be
                                        a primary but it will save 20+
                                        grams if you're running 2 rx
                                        batteries.&nbsp; You still have to
                                        run the 2nd regulator for true
                                        redundancy but you eliminate the
                                        2nd battery.&nbsp; These leads are
                                        factory made and eliminate the
                                        need to make them yourself with
                                        the concern about plugging in to
                                        the wrong cell.&nbsp; I know in my
                                        article, I was pretty much
                                        against doing this as a backup
                                        but, with Chris having this made
                                        at the factory, he has all but
                                        eliminated making a mistake by
                                        tying to the wrong cell.&nbsp; I have
                                        the link that I'll e-mail you
                                        off-list or you can just go to
                                        his website.&nbsp; I don't want to
                                        break the NSRCA list rules by
                                        advertising for him even though
                                        he advertises with the NSRCA.&nbsp;
                                        The leads are only $3.99 each
                                        and are found under the
                                        Connectors/Adapters listing.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Thank,<br>
                                        Scott<br clear="all">
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