Yeah, on my Vanquish even though the sum of all the parts that went into it came to 4765g, I weighed the whole thing ready to go the other day and found I was at 5030! Not a huge deal since I'm in sportsman but I'm still trying to figure out how one very minor repair to the LG plate and a change to Secraft canopy locks would have come to 235 grams! So I started looking for lighter batteries -- I could get 30g back by switching to the V2 Falcon props, but that's an extra $27 per prop, almost $1/gram saved. I'm currently only running one Rx battery precisely because of weight, so I'm really liking the idea of being able to use the main as a backup and switching to a lighter, lower capacity battery for my main Rx bat.<div>
<br></div><div>Peter+<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Scott McHarg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Peter,<br> To be honest, I'm struggling to make 5000g with my second De Ja Vu that I bought from a guy IF I want to run redundant packs. I use some 800mah packs in the primary De Ja Vu but that has no weight issues at 4885. I took off the APC prop, stuck on a Falcon and added an 800mah pack for redundancy with a 2nd regulator. Those items weighed about the same that I saved switching to the Falcon prop. The APC was 128g and the new Falcon was 62g. The 2nd rx battery and regulator was 76g so I'm only 10g heavier with redundancy. On the 2nd De Ja Vu, it has painted wings and stab and weighed in at the Nats at 4960g. I do still need to switch receivers in it (I have an 8 ch and a 14 ch receiver). The 8 ch is in the primary but I'll switch that out to save a few grams. The 2nd DJV was not running a switch or an arming switch which I feel is important. So...to make it all happen, a Falcon vs. APC and then am running two 350mah 2S packs (Sky Lipo). They only weigh 26g each. The 800's were 46g each. Now, with these pigtails, I am under 5000g finally. WOOT!<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Peter Vogel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ah. Now that's a good idea + point. And then, in my case, where I'm running HV, I don't even need a reg. That would provide true power redundancy for almost no weight penalty, though it does run the risk of yanking your RX out if your main battery ejects, or, even if it doesn't yank the Rx (which is held in by 6 servo leads after all, it could yank the redundant battery lead loose and the main system battery is of course yanking itself, so you are left with no radio...<div>
<br></div><div>Scott, how do you come up with 20g savings? What size Rx battery are you running? My TP 1350's weigh 76g, even 900's are in the 60+g range.<span><font color="#888888"><br><div><br>
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On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Keith Hoard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com" target="_blank">khoard@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Only tap off two cells of your main pack. You can then use a regular regulator (as opposed to a non-regular regulator). <span><font color="#888888"><br><br><div><span>Keith Hoard</span></div>
<div>Collierville, TN</div></font></span></div><div><div><div><br>On Jan 23, 2012, at 16:49, Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div>
<div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>And, of course, with a non-switching BEC off a 10s or even a 5s pack you would have massive heat issues as it tries to step down the voltage from 18.5 volts to 7.2 or 6 volts, depending on whether you are running an HV or standard voltage setup, so the regulator would probably need a fan or heat sink of some sort, which likely negates any weight savings from not running with a second battery.<div>
<br></div><div>Peter+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Scott McHarg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You have to be careful using the BEC, especially from CC because it is a switching regulator which cannot be run in parallel. It's really best not to use the BEC and set up a truly separate system.<br><br>Scott<div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 4:28 PM, George Kennie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:geobet4evr@gmail.com" target="_blank">geobet4evr@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>Could a CC BEC also be used instead of a reg.? I don't know how much curent is passed by a reg. </div><div>Sounds good cause it's a bummer trying to solder an extra lead to the Deans.</div><div> </div><div>G.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Scott McHarg <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
</div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class="gmail_quote"><div><div>
Guys,<br> Chris Moon just e-mailed me about some leads that were done at the factory. These leads run off your balance leads to a voltage regulator and allow your main battery pack to be utilized as a redundant receiver battery. It is NOT meant to be a primary but it will save 20+ grams if you're running 2 rx batteries. You still have to run the 2nd regulator for true redundancy but you eliminate the 2nd battery. These leads are factory made and eliminate the need to make them yourself with the concern about plugging in to the wrong cell. I know in my article, I was pretty much against doing this as a backup but, with Chris having this made at the factory, he has all but eliminated making a mistake by tying to the wrong cell. I have the link that I'll e-mail you off-list or you can just go to his website. I don't want to break the NSRCA list rules by advertising for him even though he advertises with the NSRCA. The leads are only $3.99 each and are found under the Connectors/Adapters listing.<br>
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