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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Hi Ron.. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial> And yes I do remember those
days still.. Maybe some thrive in that kind of environment but some of us also
wilt.. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial><(;+ } ....
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<A title=vanputte@cox.net href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">Ronald Van Putte</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 08, 2011 6:44
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Quick
question re: cellular data service atthe fields where you compete</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I wish the Nats were that cool. We judge 3 - 4 hours in
90+ degrees and 90+ relative humidity and I use a legal size clipboard with
legal size yellow pads to record the scores. Then I put the scores on the
scoresheets after judging is complete.
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<DIV>Ron Van Putte</DIV>
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<DIV>On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Del wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Its not very simple if you have
been judging for a few hours in 85 degree heat.. Scribes are another
matter... Judges I would think most contestants want them watching their
plane 100% of the time they are in the box.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">Keith Hoard</A></DIV>
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question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete</DIV>
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<DIV>Too simple, it'll never catch on. <BR><BR>Sent from my
iPhone</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Dec 8, 2011, at 9:54, Peter Vogel <<A
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Exactly. With 12 finger size buttons and an 'enter'. 0-10 and
a .5 button. Very quick and hitting enter finalizes. Enter with no
score button is Not Observed and then at the end you review the
scoresheet, make any corrections you want and hit enter one more time.
Arresti at the bottom for reference. <BR><BR>Sent from my
iPhone4S</DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Keith Hoard <<A
href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</A>>
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<DIV>Bob,<BR><BR> I've been thinking of just this
system for a couple years now. If you were using a smart phone,
you could hold it up near your line of sight during the flight and tap
in your score without taking your eyes off the plane. Perhaps
even a graphic of the maneuver for quick reference?<BR
clear=all><BR>Keith Hoard<BR>Collierville, TN<BR><A
href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Bob Kane<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</A>></SPAN><SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN>All of the sites I hit on the pattern circuit here in
D4-D5 have cellular service, most are near large metro areas so 3G
should be avaliable also.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN>I would be a little concerned about the ability to punch
in a score on a screen (even if i was a single "button") especailly
in the event of a mistake. A judge could be distracted trying
to correct a score.<VAR></VAR> A pencil/paper system is hard to
beat for ease of use and quick error correction.</SPAN></DIV><SPAN
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<DIV>Bob Kane<BR><A href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com"
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class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>Peter Vogel <<A
href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"
target=_blank>vogel.peter@gmail.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN
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question re: cellular data service at the fields where you
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<DIV>I've been thinking about a "better way" to get scores into a
system like PACSS, given the general ubiquity of smart phones and
the overall tech savvy among the pattern crowd, I believe it should
be possible for a judge or scribe to very quickly enter scores for
each maneuver into an iOS or Android phone or tablet communicating
via the cellular data network (typical data is so small as to be
VERY lightweight on data usage, so even Edge data services would be
quick enough to record scores) the interface would be designed for
very fast entry of a score (two taps per maneuver scored) with the
interface optimized for the screen size of phone or tablet.
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<DIV>Here in California, I have yet to visit a field where I didn't
have 3G data service, but I realize California can be an outlier in
such matters. </DIV>
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<DIV>So, of the fields where you have competed in the last year, how
many had 3G data service? Edge? and No Data service?</DIV>
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<DIV>How many of you have a smart phone and/or tablet?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV>Peter+<BR clear=all>
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