<html><head><base href="x-msg://236/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I wish the Nats were that cool. We judge 3 - 4 hours in 90+ degrees and 90+ relative humidity and I use a legal size clipboard with legal size yellow pads to record the scores. Then I put the scores on the scoresheets after judging is complete.<div><br></div><div>Ron Van Putte</div><div><br><div><div>On Dec 8, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Del wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><strong><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Its not very simple if you have been judging for a few hours in 85 degree heat.. Scribes are another matter... Judges I would think most contestants want them watching their plane 100% of the time they are in the box.</font></strong></div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="khoard@gmail.com" href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">Keith Hoard</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 08, 2011 11:11 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete</div><div><br></div><div>Too simple, it'll never catch on. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 8, 2011, at 9:54, Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Exactly. With 12 finger size buttons and an 'enter'. 0-10 and a .5 button. Very quick and hitting enter finalizes. Enter with no score button is Not Observed and then at the end you review the scoresheet, make any corrections you want and hit enter one more time. Arresti at the bottom for reference. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone4S</div><div><br>On Dec 8, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Bob,<br><br> I've been thinking of just this system for a couple years now. If you were using a smart phone, you could hold it up near your line of sight during the flight and tap in your score without taking your eyes off the plane. Perhaps even a graphic of the maneuver for quick reference?<br clear="all"><br>Keith Hoard<br>Collierville, TN<br><a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Bob Kane<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 12pt; "><div><span>All of the sites I hit on the pattern circuit here in D4-D5 have cellular service, most are near large metro areas so 3G should be avaliable also.</span></div><div><span></span> </div><div><span>I would be a little concerned about the ability to punch in a score on a screen (even if i was a single "button") especailly in the event of a mistake. A judge could be distracted trying to correct a score.<var></var> A pencil/paper system is hard to beat for ease of use and quick error correction.</span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div></div><div> </div><div>Bob Kane<br><a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" target="_blank">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><br></div></font></span><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"></font></span><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div readonly="" style="border-bottom-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; padding-bottom: 0px; line-height: 0; margin-top: 5px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 5px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 0px; padding-left: 0px; padding-right: 0px; font-size: 0px; border-top-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid; border-right-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-right-width: 1px; border-right-style: solid; padding-top: 0px; "></div><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">From:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peter Vogel <<a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com" target="_blank">vogel.peter@gmail.com</a>><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">To:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Sent:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 8, 2011 3:05 AM</font></span><div class="im"><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold; ">Subject:</span></b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NSRCA-discussion] Quick question re: cellular data service at the fields where you compete<br></div></font><div><div class="h5"><br><div>I've been thinking about a "better way" to get scores into a system like PACSS, given the general ubiquity of smart phones and the overall tech savvy among the pattern crowd, I believe it should be possible for a judge or scribe to very quickly enter scores for each maneuver into an iOS or Android phone or tablet communicating via the cellular data network (typical data is so small as to be VERY lightweight on data usage, so even Edge data services would be quick enough to record scores) the interface would be designed for very fast entry of a score (two taps per maneuver scored) with the interface optimized for the screen size of phone or tablet. <div><br></div><div>Here in California, I have yet to visit a field where I didn't have 3G data service, but I realize California can be an outlier in such matters. </div><div><br></div><div>So, of the fields where you have competed in the last year, how many had 3G data service? Edge? and No Data service?</div><div><br></div><div>How many of you have a smart phone and/or tablet?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Peter+<br clear="all"><div><br></div>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Did you know? 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