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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree with what you are saying and that is how we currently do and perceive the plane. However, this is a chance to embrace technology to make judging fairer and easier reducing the bias, subjectivity and emotion the judge is burdened with. The new technology, applied properly would make the administration and work of putting on a contest much easier. How we see and perceive the airplane would change to adapt to this new stuff and we could fly accordingly. We would have to adapt the rules to fit, of course, but it is doab le. I would love to see it. I would love to know the truth about box violations, drifting, altitude changes, whatever, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think it would be a game changer and it would bring out the best/. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That is just me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Richards<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 24, 2011 12:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I did not mean it to sound like it is pilot against judge. I'm just saying that it is unfair to be judged on something that the pilot can't see. The judge and the pilot should see the same thing from the same perspective. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Take for instance the judging criteria for looping maneuvers in IAC competition. The judges inherently can't see the same perspective as the pilot, but they do judge only the things that the pilot has the abiltiy to see and control from the cockpit. For instance they do NOT judge constant radius, but instead judge constant rate of pitch change. The pilot has no way to see or fly a constant radius. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In judging pattern, if the judges have the information available to know that the plane drifted in/out 10' from one end of a slow roll to the other then they would be inclined to downgrade. I doubt most people would even be able to tell from the pilots perspective that anything had drifted. It would frustrate the heck out of me if I flew what looked like a perfect manuever only to be downgraded by something I have no way of seeing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 11/22/11, Michael S. Harrison <i><drmikedds@sbcglobal.net></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=yiv1341323470><div><div><p class=yiv1341323470msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv1341323470msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I respectfully disagree. It is not a judging competition or a competition between pilot and judge, it is a flying competition to determine who flies the most perfectly. The judges job is to determine objectively who has done that. I suggest that the judge use any means possible to do that and that includes all reasonable technology. To say that a judges have an advantage the pilot does not have is not an issue because it is not about judges vs pilots, it is about how perfectly the pilot flies the airplane. If this can all be determined by some form of technology that is totally objective, then by all means we must embrace that. the rules are to determine what tools the pilot have at his disposal to fly. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv1341323470msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=yiv1341323470msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I suggest the pilot already has too many tools at his disposal. It is important that the pilot have tools to protect his equipment and fly safely, but I suggest that we have, in a sense, reduced our piloting skills to more of techno skills. All the complex programming etc that goes into flying today makes the differences in piloting almost mute. I would like to see the caller restricted as well. It is about the best pilot, not the best caller. I would like to see the rules made so that the caller is allowed to call the maneuver only but that won’t happen. </span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=yiv1341323470msonormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>