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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When all is said and done, how many pilots can watch the plane and telemetry readouts at the same time? As long as they are visual only, except for safety warnings, I don’t see a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Harlow Solid Italic";color:#1F497D'>Jay Marshall<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael S. Harrison<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I respectfully disagree. It is not a judging competition or a competition between pilot and judge, it is a flying competition to determine who flies the most perfectly. The judges job is to determine objectively who has done that. I suggest that the judge use any means possible to do that and that includes all reasonable technology. To say that a judges have an advantage the pilot does not have is not an issue because it is not about judges vs pilots, it is about how perfectly the pilot flies the airplane. If this can all be determined by some form of technology that is totally objective, then by all means we must embrace that. the rules are to determine what tools the pilot have at his disposal to fly. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I suggest the pilot already has too many tools at his disposal. It is important that the pilot have tools to protect his equipment and fly safely, but I suggest that we have, in a sense, reduced our piloting skills to more of techno skills. All the complex programming etc that goes into flying today makes the differences in piloting almost mute. I would like to see the caller restricted as well. It is about the best pilot, not the best caller. I would like to see the rules made so that the caller is allowed to call the maneuver only but that won’t happen. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Richards<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 21, 2011 7:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] No telemetry rule & new radio systems<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td valign=top style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't agree with judges having an advantage that the pilot does not have. IOW, if the pilot can't tell he is drifting in/out, but the judges know so only because they have GPS proof, then that is a bad thing, IMHO. This is one reason why the judges have to sit close to where the pilot is standing, so they see what the pilot sees, instead of at the end of the box so they have a boresight view of the slow rolls. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But that brings up a point, the pilot should not have any more information than the judges have, either. If you are getting information via downlink that you would NOT want the judges to know, then maybe you should not be getting that information either.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>--- On <b>Mon, 11/21/11, astropuppy <i><astropuppy@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=yiv1888610554><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Just my 2 cents. I think this technology would be best used to eliminate the judges. Take a few (box & center) gps coordinates before the contest and voila a judge who will work all day without lunch or a Bio break. Mike<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>