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<div>Thank you very much for the information this has been very helpful</div>
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Don<br>
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From: Stuart Chale <schale1@verizon.net><br>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 13, 2011 7:28 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2nd maneuver in P13<br>
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_0_8d2a972b-4893-439e-8f32-ff24a4b00939>You mean F-13 #7<br>
Yes you are rolling to the outside for the first 90 degree turn then to the inside for the next 360 degrees and then to the outside again for 270 degrees. So the roll stays to the same direction and constant rate. No pauses.<br>
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On 11/13/2011 6:15 PM, <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</A> wrote:
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<div>This has been helpful- one more question for experts. F11 #7 roll is same direction, correct? (e.g., entering from right first quarter is outside (roll left) next opposite circle is same (roll left), next opposite 3/4 circle roll same (left)).</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Don<br>
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From: Stuart Chale <A class=moz-txt-link-rfc2396E href="mailto:schale1@verizon.net"><schale1@verizon.net></A><br>
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Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2nd maneuver in P13<br>
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_0_26fc2104-5b77-43bf-be3e-791df18023b0>Number 4 clearly shows opposite directions on the 1/2 rolls on the aresti although the aresti did list "proposal' across it.<br>
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Now if this were the aresti used in IMAC then their rules would require a pause in between the opposite rolling segments :)<br>
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Lets see, AMA, FAI, IMAC, same figures different interpretations on how they should be flown. Now that's messed up :).<br>
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Stuart<br>
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On 11/12/2011 11:05 PM, <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</A> wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><FONT color=black size=2 face=arial>Thanks. #4. Don't tell him but Joseph from this relevation of flying the maneuver correctly now unofficially officially got 2nd in his first contest (although we won't do a scoresheet recount- leave that to the elections). All other then he and I were flying two points on the upline.<br>
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<div><FONT face=Arial>A subtlety in the new judges guide regarding rolls that's applicable to P13 maneuvers 3 / 4 / 13: </FONT></div>
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<div><FONT face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-GB; mso-fareast-language: FR; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA" lang=EN-GB><FONT size=3>"</FONT> <FONT size=3>Lines between consecutive part-rolls must be<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>short and of equal length(s). Between consecutive continuous rolls or <STRONG>part-rolls in opposite direction there must be no line</STRONG></FONT>." </SPAN></FONT></div>
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<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> </div>
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<div>A question for the experts (if you know prior to January).</div>
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<div>Same roll direction or different direction for two half rolls?<br>
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