<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><DIV>I toook my primary flight training in Canada, and spins were part of the training and part of the flight test. It certainly gave me some momentary insight into a few tight spots I got into over the ensuring 30 years, but prepared me much better for training in full-size aerobatics, and checkout in many, many different types of aircraft...some of which have very poor stall/spin characteristics, to say the least. </DIV>
<DIV>I flew with someone once who believed that the reason the spin wasn't in his training was because it was too dangerous to do on purpose...and with that mindset he merrily blasts off into the blue...good grief!</DIV>
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<DIV>And yes, Del, I chuckle every time I do a snap/spin with my plane in front of judges...few full-scales behave the way the judges are looking for, but that's a different debate.</DIV>
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<DIV>John<BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 10/5/11, Del <I><drykert2@rochester.rr.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Honestly Jay - I wish it were still that way. I feel it makes safer and more capable pilots and I would even go so far as to believe a few crashes could have been avoided if this was still the mandate. I personally know the one in Clarence, NY defefiently would have been averted. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org href="http://us.mc1205.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">'General pattern discussion'</A> </DIV>
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<P class=yiv1516825159MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE: 11pt">I took my first flight training in South Africa. There they had you doing spins in the third hour of instruction!</SPAN></DIV>
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in" class=yiv1516825159MsoNormal><STRONG><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'sans-serif'; COLOR: blue">I do recall more than a couple of discussions from competent judges that didn't fly full scale that knew better than I when a model was stalled and what it would do to show it was stalled to enter a spin. I grew tired of trying to move the break wall with my head.. lol.. </SPAN></STRONG></DIV></DIV>
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