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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Hi Murray,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Private reply off list.
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Could you provide me the link to the
"Beast" you mentioned?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>Thanks. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial>
Del</FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
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<A title=murrjohnson@gmail.com href="mailto:murrjohnson@gmail.com">Murray
Johnson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 05, 2011 5:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: AOPA
Aviation Summit: Think you knowspins?</DIV>
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<DIV>It works on all Pitts models. Just like in the video clip if there is an
overcontrol applying anti-spin inputs a secondary opposite spin will develope.
That is, if a positive spin is overcontrolled a negative spin will occur. Vice
versa for a negative spin. The Mueller-Beggs recovery is designed to
bypass this condition by instructing you to let go of the stick. An
overcontrol is impossible with this recovery technique. Problems occur when a
pilot thinks he is in a positive spin when in fact it may be negative as they
look almost identical from a cockpit POV, especially if the spin ensued from a
botched maneuver. Thinking he is applying anti-spin control inputs my be
exascerbating the spin mode. Panic finishes the excercise. In full scale acro
it is absolutely essential to get spin training if you want to live to a ripe
old age. Luckily when we do this with a model 99.999% of the time we just walk
away with a little lighter wallet. One of the reasons why I switched!!</DIV>
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<DIV>Have a look at the clip of the "Beast" accident. He was a very, very
experienced pilot and see how the secondary spin occurs in the attempted
recovery.</DIV>
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<DIV>MJ<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Phil S. <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net">chuenkan@comcast.net</A>></SPAN>
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<DIV text="#cc0000" bgcolor="#ffcccc">Including the Pitts S-1-2?? I
lost a student (not flying) to a Pitts crash one summer -- don't know for
sure what he was doing, but rumor had it he spun in...
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<DIV class=h5><BR><BR>On 10/5/2011 12:17 PM, Murray Johnson wrote:
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<DIV>This is a very good re-visit of the Meuller-Beggs emergency spin
recovery that is taught in just about every aerobatic school around. Power
off, hands off (let go of the stick completely) and step on the hard
rudder. If the rudder feels soft and mushy, you've got the wrong one!!
Interestingly enough the only tested aerobatic design that does not
recover with this technique 100% of the time is the venerable Citabria! It
requires anti-spin control inputs to guarantee recovery.</DIV>
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<DIV>Cheers</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>MJ<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 5:42 AM, George Kennie <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:geobet4evr@gmail.com"
target=_blank>geobet4evr@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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