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Actually, the opposite might just happen, P-13 isn't that huge a stepping stone from Masters, as P-11 was.&nbsp;At least to&nbsp;me it isn't as intimidating as P-11.<BR>
FYI, I judged P-13 last weekend. It is&nbsp;less of a judging workload. Never felt rushed in giving a score.&nbsp;It even actually flows nicely, but appears to be a quite tall sequence.<BR>I only observed two practice flights on Friday and felt prepared enough to judge it on Saturday. 

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From: verne@twmi.rr.com<BR>To: timsautopro@yahoo.com; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<BR>Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:19:12 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Contests - FAI Schedule??<BR><BR>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I’d be surprised to see any significant exodus from FAI.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I'm thinking Masters is going to be a bigger class this coming year...............................</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I have uploaded the powerpoints to <A href="http://www.7d7-technologies.com/NSRCA" target=_blank>www.7d7-technologies.com/NSRCA</A><BR><BR>Y'all can download them from there if you want them.&nbsp; They are Power Points.&nbsp; You can still view these by getting the free Power Point viewer from <A href="http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=6" target=_blank>http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=6</A><BR><BR>Scott</SPAN></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Vicente "Vince" Bortone &lt;<A href="mailto:vicenterc@comcast.net">vicenterc@comcast.net</A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">From: </SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">"Scott McHarg" &lt;<A href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com">scmcharg@gmail.com</A>&gt;<BR><B>To: </B>"General pattern discussion" &lt;<A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>&gt;<BR><B>Sent: </B>Thursday, August 25, 2011 8:59:13 AM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] D4 Contests - FAI Schedule??<BR><BR>Arch,<BR>Look for the Powerpoints in your e-mail.&nbsp; I just sent them to you</SPAN></P>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">The 4 FAI pilots all flew well and&nbsp;we all enjoyed seeing&nbsp;the new sequence.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Once again, Mark, sorry about your Spark.<BR>&nbsp;</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">I have yet to fly P-13 (I've yet to fly ANYthing since my Spark's demise at the Nats) but would prefer to fly P-13 for the rest of the year than to work on P-11/F-11 since those are now dead patterns. &nbsp;Thoughts? &nbsp; My suggestion would be to fly only P-13 (i.e. Not try to fly F-13 yet) for the remaining 3 contests. &nbsp; Yeah, it would be a little bit of an unknown for us all, but should be fun and much better preparation for next year.</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=ecxMsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: white"><SPAN style="COLOR: black">Looking for feedback! &nbsp;We have a contest this weekend...so how should it be run?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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