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    Derek,<br>
    <br>
    Since noone qualified through the NAts last year, could we extend an
    invitation to an under-18 who is currently flying F3A? Perhaps by
    making a selection through how many competitors the candidate has
    beat in contests this year? There can't be that many to choose from.<br>
    <br>
    I suggest that the opportunity to compete in a world championship
    against the best in the world would be a very memorable experience
    for one of our kids regardless of trophies, etc.&nbsp; Whenever there has
    been an opportunity to field a fourth entry as World Champion, we
    have done so, even to the possible detriment of our team standing at
    the WC. I suggest this would be in the same spirit without any
    downside impact to the team. <br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    <br>
    On 5/30/2011 12:01 AM, Derek Koopowitz wrote:
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">The Junior category for F3A is only effective
            starting in 2012.&nbsp; A decision to include junior&#8217;s was made
            by the CIAM F3A Sub-Committee chair in November last year
            and got the approval of the CIAM committee in early December
            at the CIAM meeting (which I did not attend).&nbsp; The first I
            heard about this was the middle of January when we were
            getting ready to publish the first bulletin for the WCs.
            &nbsp;This WC will not offer a &#8220;Junior&#8221; World Champion &#8211; there
            will only be a &#8220;highest placing Junior&#8221; if there are more
            than 3 Junior&#8217;s competing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
            &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: rgb(31,
            73, 125);">One other point to consider&#8230; there were NO
            junior&#8217;s participating at the Nats in F3A last year (2010).&nbsp;
            The only person that was listed to participate was Brandon
            Landry and he never competed last year.&nbsp; It would be a
            little hard to choose a junior when we didn&#8217;t have any
            competing&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  windowtext;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:
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                windowtext;"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>John Gayer<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:10 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members
                for World Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">That would be our CIAM representative,
          Derek Koopowitz. However, I have no idea if he was the
          representative when the current rules for 2011 came up for a
          vote.<br>
          After that, Al Glenn as team manager should be familiar with
          the rules.<br>
          And of course anyone now flying F3A should also have read the
          rules.<br>
          <br>
          Still I can see how this might be overlooked. After all, there
          appear to be only two countries who did not overlook it.
          However the question now should be: can we still propose a
          junior at this late date and do we have one that is ready to
          step in? Were there any juniors or seniors that flew F3A in
          last year's Nats??<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          On 5/29/2011 7:44 PM, Ronald Van Putte wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I keep wondering who in the U.S. should
          have been "minding the store" on this subject. &nbsp;If other
          countries picked up on adding a junior member on their team,
          why didn't we? <o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Ron<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On May 29, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Bob
                Richards wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Then I guess the only
                        alternative is to send no junior? Seems to me
                        that if we get a quick consensus to use the Nats
                        results, it should all be good.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">JMHO,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Bob R.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <br>
                        --- On <b>Fri, 5/27/11, Joe Lachowski <i>&lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">jlachow@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b>
                        wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        From: Joe Lachowski &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:jlachow@hotmail.com">jlachow@hotmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior Members
                        for World Team<br>
                        To: "NSRCA Discussion List" &lt;<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>
                        Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 10:38 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">I believe none particitated
                          in the team selection process? <br>
                          &nbsp;<br>
                          Picking someone&nbsp;based on anything else would
                          open a can of worms.<br>
                          &nbsp;<br>
                          &gt; Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:11:51 -0600<br>
                          &gt; From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:jgghome@comcast.net">jgghome@comcast.net</a><br>
                          &gt; To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
                          &gt; Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Junior
                          Members for World Team<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Looking at the AMA site for the Worlds, I
                          notice that several teams have <br>
                          &gt; added a fourth junior member to their
                          teams as per the new rules.<br>
                          &gt; It is rather disappointing to me at least
                          that we, as the host nation, <br>
                          &gt; have not given any of our juniors(under
                          18) a chance to compete at the <br>
                          &gt; world level against other international
                          juniors.<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; John Gayer<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt;
                          _______________________________________________<br>
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