<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><SPAN>I could not find anything on AMA rulebook in regard this question. The assumption is that the drift must be allowed (AMA) because the following maneuver the pilot has the option to correct for the drift. <BR><BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR></SPAN><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "ehaury" <ejhaury@comcast.net><BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 9:24:29 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] A question for the experts<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>From the FAI judges guide, 5B.7.4 - Stall Turns. "<FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT size=3>Drift of the model aircraft during the stalled condition</FONT>
<P><FONT size=3>must be ignored, provided the model aircraft does not drift outside the aerobatic zone." </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=3>Earl</FONT></P>
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<DIV>I too have an issue to bring out on the M....... specifically the F3A M</DIV>
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<DIV>A question, or closer to a statement actually, was posed to me at the recent contest regardng the height of the middle looping element.....that it did not have to have the same height as the entry/exit looping elements; that it specifically was not written anywhere so it didn't exist.</DIV>
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<DIV>My response is that the geometry must be preserved. As long as I've flown pattern, this maneuver's geometry always required the looping elements to be at the same height. The way I see it, if looping element heights are to be different, we should see some verbiage to that effect in maneuver description</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't have the maneuver description handy so if someone would please post it, I'd appreciate it</DIV>
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<DIV>regards</DIV>
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<DIV>MattK<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica">-----Original Message-----<BR>From: tocdon <tocdon@netscape.net><BR>To: nsrca-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Thu, May 26, 2011 11:34 pm<BR>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] A question for the experts<BR><BR>
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<DIV>A question for the judging experts.</DIV>
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<DIV>Figure M, both Masters and FAI- Yes I know the bottom line rule the best presentation gets the best score, but a technical question.</DIV>
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<DIV>Maneuver flow in a crosswind. Plane starts maneuver at 140 meters distance out. During the first stall turn the plane drifts out (recall this is a stalled maneuver); second stall turn the plane drifts out again (same). Now the plane wind corrects in all other aspects of the maneuver but exits approximately 20 meters further out than the entry and no defects observed, but exit distance is 160 meters. What is the score given for this maneuver?</DIV>
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