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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The ThunderPower 1010 w/ 210 balancers has
long been very solid for charging at up 200 watts (10s at 5 amps). The biggest
problem with the 1010 setup, is what plagues every setup – the lack of
robust connections for the balance taps (and in the case of the 1010, the
connections between the balancer and charger). Several months ago, parts
were in short supply, but that has been fixed (I spoke with TP ~1 week ago).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you need a charger right now, the
Hyperion EOS 0615i Duo III is very hard to beat. 2 separate channels that
can each handle up to 6S and 180 watts (on 12 volt input), and can be
synchronized for charging of up to 12S. For pattern use, you can charge
10s at about 8 amps. The charging algorithm is very fast, and balancing
appears to be as accurate as any charger I have used. If you bump up to
24 volt input, the total power increases to about 600 watts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you can wait just ~1 month, the new
ThunderPower 820 charger will be available, and it is conceptually similar to
the 0615. Each channel can handle up to 8s and 20 amps not to exceed 200
watts per channel (on 12 volt) or 400 watts (on 24 volt), and the channels can
be synchronized. Balancers are integrated. Street price is going to
be around $270, and they were running pre-order specials in November (not sure
if any specials are available now).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>With many things “techy”, the “best”
is often the reputable manufacturer with the most recent entry to the market.
I’d bet the 820 will again be a solid choice for many years, as the 1010s
were.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Of course there is also the Schulze line
of chargers, very nice, but very expensive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Team Horizon/JR/Spektrum/ThunderPower<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Richards<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, December 07, 2010
10:00 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Charger</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The only problem I see with the new Hitec 4 port
charger is that each output is limited to 50w. So, 5 cell 5000mah
packs could take close to 2 hours to charge. Not necessarily a bad
thing, especially since you can be charging 4 packs at once, it is just
something to consider. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Mon, 12/6/10, Ron Van Putte <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><vanputte@cox.net></span></i></span></b>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Charger<br>
To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 4:31 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Some people prefer Fords and others prefer
Chevrolets. My opinions follow:<br>
<br>
If you want to just charge 2-cell or 3-cell lipos of low capacity (up to
about 2500 mah) get one of the inexpensive ones ($10)from <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Hobby</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">City</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
that'll charge and balance through the same ports.<br>
<br>
If you want to charge/balance 2-cell, 3-cell, 4-cell and 5-cell packs
with up to 4000 mah capacity, get one of several that'll cost about $60-$125
like the Accucel 6 from <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">Hobby</st1:PlaceName>
<st1:PlaceType w:st="on">City</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>. You can
also get a Multiplex 5014 (which doesn't balance) and a TME balancer for
about $100.<br>
<br>
If you want to charge two to four 5-cell 5000 mah packs, get either the Hitec
or Turnigy 4-port charger for under $150. They will both charge and
balance up to four lipo packs at 2.3 amps. Want to charge faster?
Put in for a loan, because it's going to cost you.<br>
<br>
BTW, a good, robust power supply is necessary for the last option.<br>
<br>
Your opinions may vary, but you asked.<br>
<br>
Ron VP<br>
<br>
<br>
On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:01 PM, Jerry Stebbins wrote:<br>
<br>
> Well, for one of us's "older than dirt", we can only hold our
breath for 45 seconds. Sooooo--wassa answers to A -1 , A-2, A-3, n A-
foah? Specially 2 n 3, I may wanna dabble in 91 size stuff next year. I
know this will be an un-qualified, down to dirt, factually based Eng-n-eering
answer I been looking for!!!!!<br>
> I is a sittn here with baited breath---<br>
> Jerry<br>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Van Putte" <<a
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputte@cox.net"
ymailto="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a>><br>
> To: "<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>"
<<a
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:21 AM<br>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Charger<br>
> <br>
> <br>
>> Boy, did you just open a big can of worms!<br>
>> <br>
>> You need to answer some questions, like: How many cells do you
plan to charge? What capacities are the packs? How fast do
you want to charge? How many packs do you want to charge at the same
time?<br>
>> <br>
>> Average Joe only cares about charging 2-cell and 3-cell packs with
100-2000 mah capacity one at a time. You get one "best"
charger<br>
>> <br>
>> More advanced guys will charge 2-cell, 3-cell, 4-cell and
5-cell packs with up to 4000 mah capacity. You get a different
answer.<br>
>> <br>
>> Heli guys may be charging 2-cell, 3-cell, 4-cell and 6-cell
packs with up to 6000 mah capacity. Still another answer.<br>
>> <br>
>> Others may be charging two to four 5-cell 5000 mah packs.
You guessed it: still another answer.<br>
>> <br>
>> Ron VP<br>
>> <br>
>> On Dec 6, 2010, at 10:14 AM, Richard Harn wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>>> So who makes the best Lipoly charger?<br>
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