<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=black face=arial></FONT>Incomplete...should have read "......business types don't know about business"<SPAN style="DISPLAY: inline-block" contentEditable=false></SPAN>. But I too, decided against it</div>
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From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
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<PRE style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt"><TT>I almost wrote, "As an engineer, I'm seldom surprised by what <br>
business types don't know." However, I decide not to write it. <br>
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Ron VP <br>
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On Dec 4, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Phil Spelt wrote: <br>
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> Yup, used those to teach business computing in the early '80s -- I <br>
> was amazed at what business types didn't know about computing back <br>
> then... <br>
> <br>
> At 02:06 PM 12/4/2010, you wrote: <br>
>> RS - TRS - 80 alias Radio Shack TRASH80 <br>
>> ----- Original Message ----- <br>
>> From: Pete Cosky <br>
>> To: 'General pattern discussion' <br>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:16 AM <br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] website back up <br>
>> <br>
>> I went from that to an Apple IIe to an IBM clone. TONS of money <br>
>> for very little computing power in retrospect, but it paved the <br>
>> way for things like hackers…… <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks again Marty for all you do keeping the website going. <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [ <A href="mailto:nsrca-?">mailto:nsrca-</A> <br>
>> <A href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Lightfoot <br>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:07 AM <br>
>> To: 'General pattern discussion' <br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] website back up <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Glad to see that I wasn’t the only sucker that bought a DEC <br>
>> Rainbow. I couldn’t afford the HD. Can you believe that we paid <br>
>> over $3K for that anchor? Of course that smooth scroll display <br>
>> made it worthwhile! I had a grad school classmate in ’82 from IBM <br>
>> who said that the PC would never amount to anything. <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Jay Marshall <br>
>> <br>
>> From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [ <A href="mailto:nsrca-?">mailto:nsrca-</A> <br>
>> <A href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Pete Cosky <br>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:48 AM <br>
>> To: 'General pattern discussion' <br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] website back up <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> I loved the Rainbow. CPM OS and dual 5 ¼ floppies in a single unit <br>
>> height….it was THE machine IMHO back then. <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> From: <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [ <A href="mailto:nsrca-?">mailto:nsrca-</A> <br>
>> <A href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Phil Spelt <br>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 8:38 AM <br>
>> To: General pattern discussion <br>
>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] website back up <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> In 1983, I bought a 5MB hard drive for my DEC Rainbow for about <br>
>> $500, and wondered how I would EVER fill up the 5 MB!!! 'Course, <br>
>> we can do a LOTmore these days, such as Call Of Duty, etc, etc. <br>
>> lol... <br>
>> <br>
>> At 08:22 PM 12/3/2010, you wrote: <br>
>> <br>
>> Yep. My 1st hard drive was 10MB, and cost $450. Storage and RAM <br>
>> are crazy cheap these days. Consider that the software used to <br>
>> control the Command Module on the Apollo missions ran in 60K of <br>
>> memory. 2 blocks of ROM (24k and 32k each) and 1 block of RAM (4k). <br>
>> <br>
>> Doug <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> ---- Ron Van Putte <<A href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>> wrote: <br>
>> > A computer guy told me recently that he sold hard drives with one <br>
>> > terrabyte of memory for over $2 million several years ago, after I <br>
>> > told him I had just bought one for $69.99 plus shipping. <br>
>> > <br>
>> > Ron VP <br>
>> > <br>
>> > On Dec 3, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Bob Richards wrote: <br>
>> > <br>
>> > > Core memory, I bet! <br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > --- On Fri, 12/3/10, Phil Spelt <<A href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net">chuenkan@comcast.net</A>> wrote: <br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > Speaking of "knowing the whole thing", Ron, in 1972, already, <br>
>> when <br>
>> > > I was a college prof in Indiana, we had a relatively new Digital <br>
>> > > Equipment Corp. (DEC) PDP-11-20 mainframe computer in the comp <br>
>> > > center. A DEC guy was there service the disk drives, and I asked <br>
>> > > him something about the memory modules. He didn't know the <br>
>> answer, <br>
>> > > and when I expressed surprise, he indicated that there was no one <br>
>> > > at DEC that knew any of their computers from end to end!!! And <br>
>> > > that was 1972 --think how complex things have gotten by now... <br>
>> > > <br>
>> > > <br>
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>> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society, Inc. <br>
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> --> There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets. <br>
> <br>
> Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio Control Society, Inc. <br>
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> AMA--1294, Scientific Leader Member SPA--177, Board Member <br>
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