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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jon,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The FAI maneuvers that I REALLY don’t like are the ones in yaw.
They look terrible and are virtually impossible to judge. I’m talking about maneuvers
like the half loop with two opposite full rolls integrated from F09 which is
only made uglier by the fact that it’s an end maneuver and the </span><span
style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Half
outside loop, with ½ integrated roll, also an end maneuver. They just look
lousy to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Verne<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 13, 2010 3:52 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maintaining schedule/class continuity:
Was:Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The</span><span
class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> FAI sequence committee ought to let ours do their work.
The F11 sequence is a disaster. 1 1/2 reverse cuban with a whole
bunch of crap in it followed by an end box inverted half cuban eight = a mess.
Also, a snap followed by a 4/8 opposite AND a snap with a 4 pt opposite
in the same sequence. What were they thinking? No one could have
ever actually flown that mess before putting it on paper.</span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Jon Lowe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Bill Glaze <billglaze@bellsouth.net><br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Wed, Oct 13, 2010 2:35 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maintaining schedule/class continuity:
Was:Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Verne:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>I couldn't agree more. In the length of time I've been
flying Pattern, I haven't seen a schedule of figures that was bad--some may
have been better than others, (notice: operative word: "MAY")
but there hasn't been a lousy one that I've seen; this wasn't magic. I think
you're spot on for commending those people on the previous comittee.
Thanks for doing so.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bill Glaze<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <a
href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com" title="verne@twmi.rr.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>Verne Koester</span></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>'General
pattern discussion'</span></u></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> Thursday, October 07, 2010 3:13 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maintaining schedule/class continuity:
Was:Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Just so there’s no confusion, I’m complimenting and crediting
the PREVIOUS Sequence Committee that created the schedules we’ve been flying
for the past few years. I’m on the current committee and hope that the
schedules that will serve pattern in the next few years do so as well as the
schedules we’ve been flying. Just my opinion, but I’ve watched the trends for a
couple decades now and you can really harm the sport, particularly Sportsman
and Intermediate with schedules that are way out of whack with the skill set at
those levels. The increased activity level we’re seeing in and around D4 in
Sportsman through Advanced are directly related to the success of those
schedules. I remember Troy Newman, Joe Lachowski, and possibly Dave Lockhart
being on that committee as well as others and they’re to be commended for
getting us back on track.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Verne Koester</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a> [<a
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style='color:blue'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood, Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 11:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Maintaining schedule/class continuity: Was:
Acceptable use policy for the list...</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Verne, I couldn’t agree more. The schedule committee has
done a fabulous job but I think we as a group have to stay very vigilant that
we maintain a common “Gap” and progression between the classes. That does
NOT mean we can’t or shouldn’t keep up with the times. But the
balance is very important and I think we currently have that (if by luck or
design I don’t know or care). My son is going to try and jump from
Sportsman to intermediate in the spring and it will be a HUGE one for
him. BUT… we went out to fly the maneuvers last week in stages and while
he can’t put together the whole sequence yet, I don’t think he scared himself
making the attempt. A few of the maneuvers had some pucker factor…
the double immelman was the first time he had ever pushed through an outside
half loop, but since you immediately roll to an upright and comfortable
orientation, he immediately relaxed and after 2 or 3 times I could tell it
won’t be a problem.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That’s how the transitions should be. Exhilarating, but
not frightening. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Again to the sequence committee..well done.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mark Atwood</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a> [<a
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Verne Koester<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I’m confident that the schedules created by the previous
Sequence Committee has a lot to do with it. The trick now is to keep the class
transitions and difficulty levels the same as they are now. The quickest way to
lose a new Sportsman pilot is to make Intermediate too big of a jump in
difficulty level.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Verne</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a> [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?"><u><span
style='color:blue'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood, Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It has to be a cycle. Our area (D4) use to be a
hotbed for pattern in the 80’s but through the 90’s and aught’s we saw a very
steady decline in participation. But the last 3-4 years has seen a
resurgence of pattern activity and a host of new participants. We
still have a large masters class of long time competitors, but our contests now
have a solid contingent of Sportsman and Intermediates showing up to many
contests. Our district champs had 10 in Advanced… A
combination of long time old blood, some new advancements from Intermediate,
and some former participants that are coming back to the scene.</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have NO idea what triggered this, but I like it </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Mark</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mark Atwood</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1351F3'><a href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com"><u><span
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a> [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?"><u><span
style='color:blue'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald Van Putte<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...</span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>It'll be interesting to see what happens next. The survival of our
newsletter is tied directly to the number of advertisers. If those who
sell products related to our hobby don't think it is profitable to continue
advertising in the K-Factor, our newsletter will founder. I'm sure the
poor economy is part of the problem. As the owner of a small hobby shop,
I can tell you that my sales this year will be about half of what they were 5-7
years ago.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>It appears that the number of competitors is down in the
southeast. I was stunned to see only 12 competitors at the O.J. Stillman
contest in Jacksonville just over a week ago. That contest normally has
numbers in the high 20s - low 30s. The Huntsville contest in September
used to be a major contest, but there were so few contestants that we were
either flying, calling or judging all the time. I know that numbers like
that will cause clubs to think twice about hosting another contest. After
a hiatus of almost ten years, my club, the Eglin Aero Modellers, is hosting a
contest in just over a week. I hope the number of competitors is
sufficiently high, because, if they are, I'm sure we will continue hosting the
contest. If not, there won't be another contest.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Ron<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Keith Hoard wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>So how many competitors do we have left?<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Oct 6, 2010, at 13:11, mike mueller <<a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>mups1953@yahoo.com</span></u></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> I'm sure some see it as a small deal but if you are
a competitor and attempting to abide by the rules you may have a completly
different perspective. For that reason I think the rules in place are well
thought out and I think Derek is correct in pointing it out. MIke<br>
<br>
--- On <b>Wed, 10/6/10, Keith Hoard <i><<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>khoard@gmail.com</span></u></a>></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: Keith Hoard <<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com"><u><span
style='color:blue'>khoard@gmail.com</span></u></a>><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...<br>
To: "General pattern discussion" <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></u></a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 12:49 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I'll second that!!!<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:03, "GEORGE KENNIE" <<a
href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net"><u><span style='color:blue'>geobet4@verizon.net</span></u></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
think this was meant as an advisory. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
don't think you'd want to call him in January only to find out that they were
no longer an</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>available
item when you had expected them to be.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
have always found his updates to be useful information and his use of our
site to be discreet !</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As
he is not the only purveyor amoungst our group to utilize the site for a
heads up and certainly </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>not
abusing the privelidge, it would seem to me that these types of advisories
should be allowed</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>without
recriminations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>G.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>-----
Original Message ----- </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"
target="_blank" title="derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"><u><span style='color:blue'>Derek
Koopowitz</span></u></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><u><span
style='color:blue'>NSRCA List</span></u></a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, October
06, 2010 9:51 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [NSRCA-discussion]
Acceptable use policy for the list...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I’d just like to point out a reminder for everyone about
the list’s acceptable use policy… please see:<o:p></o:p></p>
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