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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Verne, I couldn&#8217;t agree more.&nbsp; The schedule committee
has done a fabulous job but I think we as a group have to stay very vigilant
that we maintain a common &#8220;Gap&#8221; and progression between the
classes.&nbsp; That does NOT mean we can&#8217;t or shouldn&#8217;t keep up
with the times.&nbsp;&nbsp; But the balance is very important and I think we
currently have that (if by luck or design I don&#8217;t know or
care).&nbsp;&nbsp; My son is going to try and jump from Sportsman to
intermediate in the spring and it will be a HUGE one for him.&nbsp; BUT&#8230; we
went out to fly the maneuvers last week in stages and while he can&#8217;t put
together the whole sequence yet, I don&#8217;t think he scared himself making
the attempt.&nbsp;&nbsp; A few of the maneuvers had some pucker factor&#8230;
the double immelman was the first time he had ever pushed through an outside
half loop, but since you immediately &nbsp;roll to an upright and comfortable
orientation, he immediately relaxed and after 2 or 3 times I could tell it won&#8217;t
be a problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s how the transitions should be.&nbsp; Exhilarating,
but not frightening.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Again to the sequence committee..well done.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-M<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mark Atwood</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Phone: 440.684.3101 x102&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><b><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Verne
Koester<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 10:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I&#8217;m confident that the schedules created by the previous
Sequence Committee has a lot to do with it. The trick now is to keep the class
transitions and difficulty levels the same as they are now. The quickest way to
lose a new Sportsman pilot is to make Intermediate too big of a jump in
difficulty level.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Verne<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood,
Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It has to be a cycle.&nbsp;&nbsp; Our area (D4) use to be a
hotbed for pattern in the 80&#8217;s but through the 90&#8217;s and
aught&#8217;s we saw a very steady decline in participation.&nbsp; But the last
3-4 years has seen a resurgence of pattern activity and a host of new
participants.&nbsp;&nbsp; We still have a large masters class of long time competitors,
but our contests now have a solid contingent of Sportsman and Intermediates
showing up to many contests.&nbsp; Our district champs had 10 in
Advanced&#8230;&nbsp;&nbsp; A combination of long time old blood, some new
advancements from Intermediate, and some former participants that are coming back
to the scene.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I have NO idea what triggered this, but I like it </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Mark Atwood</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Paragon Consulting, Inc.</span></b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>|</span></b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;President</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>5885&nbsp;Landerbrook&nbsp;Drive Suite
130,&nbsp;Cleveland&nbsp;Ohio,&nbsp;44124</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;</span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Phone: 440.684.3101 x102&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><b><span
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>|</span></b><span
style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>&nbsp;&nbsp;Fax:
440.684.3102</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:#1351F3'><a href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a>
&nbsp;</span><b><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>|</span></b><span style='font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Ronald
Van Putte<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>It'll be interesting to see what happens next. The survival
of our newsletter is tied directly to the number of advertisers. &nbsp;If those
who sell products related to our hobby don't think it is profitable to continue
advertising in the K-Factor, our newsletter will founder. &nbsp;I'm sure the
poor economy is part of the problem. &nbsp;As the owner of a small hobby shop,
I can tell you that my sales this year will be about half of what they were 5-7
years ago.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>It appears that the number of competitors is down in the
southeast. &nbsp;I was stunned to see only 12 competitors at the O.J. Stillman
contest in Jacksonville just over a week ago. &nbsp;That contest normally has
numbers in the high 20s - low 30s. &nbsp;The Huntsville contest in September
used to be a major contest, but there were so few contestants that we were
either flying, calling or judging all the time. &nbsp;I know that numbers like
that will cause clubs to think twice about hosting another contest. &nbsp;After
a hiatus of almost ten years, my club, the Eglin Aero Modellers, is hosting a
contest in just over a week. &nbsp;I hope the number of competitors is
sufficiently high, because, if they are, I'm sure we will continue hosting the
contest. &nbsp;If not, there won't be another contest.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Ron<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 6, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Keith Hoard wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>So how many competitors do we have left?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
On Oct 6, 2010, at 13:11, mike mueller &lt;<a href="mailto:mups1953@yahoo.com">mups1953@yahoo.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

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  <p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;I'm sure some see it as a small deal but if you are
  a competitor and attempting to abide by the rules you may have a completly different
  perspective. For that reason I think the rules in place are well thought out
  and I think Derek is correct in pointing it out. MIke<br>
  <br>
  --- On <b>Wed, 10/6/10, Keith Hoard <i>&lt;<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b>
  wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>
  From: Keith Hoard &lt;<a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Acceptable use policy for the list...<br>
  To: &quot;General pattern discussion&quot; &lt;<a
  href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>
  Date: Wednesday, October 6, 2010, 12:49 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal>I'll second that!!!<br>
  <br>
  Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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  On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:03, &quot;GEORGE KENNIE&quot; &lt;<a
  href="mailto:geobet4@verizon.net">geobet4@verizon.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
  think this was meant as an advisory. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
  don't think you'd want to call him in January only to find out that they were
  no longer an</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>available
  item when you had expected them to be.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
  have always found his updates to be useful information and his use of our
  site to be discreet !</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>As
  he is not the only purveyor amoungst our group to utilize the site for a
  heads up and certainly </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>not
  abusing the privelidge, it would seem to me that these types of advisories
  should be allowed</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>without
  recriminations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
  think a discretionary reaction should prevail.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>G.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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  Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
  font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:
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  href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"
  target="_blank" title="derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">Derek Koopowitz</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
  href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
  target="_blank" title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA List</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Wednesday, October
  06, 2010 9:51 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
  style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> [NSRCA-discussion]
  Acceptable use policy for the list...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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  <p class=yiv521967817msonormal>I&#8217;d just like to point out a reminder for
  everyone about the list&#8217;s acceptable use policy&#8230; please see:<o:p></o:p></p>
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