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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Matt,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for the explanation. The ranking as
it stands is a very good system. If improvement is possible, I'm confident
someone will find a method to do so.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-mark</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 05, 2010
05:26</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge
Rank, 2010 F3A and Masters Finals</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=arial color=black>Mark and all,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Judge Ranking
program doesn't account for one judge seeing a 10 and another seeing a zero.
From the judge's perspective, each is right. The calculations respect
each judge's score equally. </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">One "low" judge
can sometimes be on the same panel as 4 "high" judges<SPAN
contentEditable=false style="DISPLAY: inline-block"></SPAN> and vice
versa. Who is right? That situation will skew the data and all judges will be
ranked lower than if a panel was more consistent. </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Any of the
rankings I've posted, judges are ranked respective to their peers
on any given panel, because the whole panel was used to place the pilots for
any round, officially. Judge Rank doesn't get to pick and choose; it
plays no favorites.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">As RVP, Tony,
Don and I have said over the years, this program was never cast in stone. If
there is a better way, maybe we can improve the program.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Regards</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">MattK</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Mark Hunt
<flyintexan@att.net><BR>To: General pattern discussion
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Mon, Oct 4, 2010 10:33
pm<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge Rank, 2010 F3A and Masters
Finals<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>yes. Nice work. my only beef with
judge ranking is..what if the minority is getting it right?......how many
of the majority really downgrade for distance?..;)</FONT></DIV>
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href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 04, 2010
22:15</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judge
Rank, 2010 F3A and Masters Finals</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=arial color=black></FONT><SPAN
style="DISPLAY: inline-block"></SPAN>Hey,</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Did this get
through the frst time??</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A><BR>To: <A
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A>; <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Sent:
Mon, Oct 4, 2010 2:57 pm<BR>Subject: Judge Rank, 2010 F3A and Masters
Finals<BR><BR>
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Just
finished the calculations from 2010 for both F3A and Masters Finals. Now I
need to edit the website to bring everything to date:</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"></SPAN> </DIV><SPAN
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<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><STRONG><FONT
size=3>F3A, 2 rounds flown; F11 plus unknown</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Dale
Arnold
Rd 1= 927.2------rd2 = 883.8</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Mark
Radcliff Rd1=
870.2------rd2 = 879.5</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Derek Koopowitz Rd 1=
869</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Mike
Harrison Rd1=
825.6</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Rusty
Dose
Rd 1 =806.7</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Mark
Atwood Rd
2=914.2</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Bill
Ahrens
Rd2=837.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma>Tom
Miller
Rd2=890.1</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=Tahoma size=3><STRONG>Masters, 3 rounds flown:</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Don
Ramsey Rd 1=
911.1-----------Rd 2= 873.6</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Tony
Romano Rd 1=
904.5-----------Rd 2=899.1</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Ed
Alt
Rd 1= 893.1-----------Rd 2=811.0</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Carlos
Barrera Rd 1= 838.9-----------Rd
2=809.7</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Joe
Dunnaway Rd 1= 792.2-----------Rd
2=748.7</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><STRONG><FONT
size=3>Round 3</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Rick
Wallace Rd 3 = 861.9</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">RVP
Rd 3 = 782.2</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Gary
Courtney Rd 3 = 770.7</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">John
Fuqua Rd 3 =
753.7</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Christopher
Moon Rd 3 = 717.8</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">When we first
started to do these calculations some 7 years ago, the judges were hard
pressed to get an average score in the 900s. But now we have had several do
that and a couple more than once. </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">We've
actually had a few judges score the Placement part of the
calculation,1000 points, which means they placed every pilot in the correct
order per the official score. It has also become clear that certain
judges consistently score the Scoring part of the calculation in the 900's
which means they are closer to the average score than the other
judges. Both of these feats are hard to do consistenctly since the
judging panels change as much as they do</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Kudos to all
for your consistency and dilligence</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">Regards,</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial">MattK</DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV></SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR>On Sep
22, 2010, at 10:26 PM, <A
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A>
wrote: <BR> <BR>> Judge Rankings from the F3A Finals in 2009.
Will be calculating the > 2010 and posting
soon <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Rounds 1 and
2 <BR>> <BR>> JFuqua 744.9 805.0 <BR>> BKane 853.8
786.1 <BR>> DRamsey 853.0 871.2 <BR>> RWallace 818.9
845.3 <BR>> CBarrera 799.6
885.2 <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Rounds 3 and
4 <BR>> <BR>> DArnold 981.2 889.6 <BR>> MAtwood
870.8 895.2 <BR>> ABouchard 848.9 826.2 <BR>> EHaury 912.8
906.7 <BR>> KVelez 904.5 983.2 <BR>> <BR>>
Regards <BR>> <BR>>
MattK <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> -----Original
Message----- <BR>> From: <A
href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com">rcmaster199@aol.com</A> <BR>> To:
<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A> <BR>>
Sent: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 10:45 pm <BR>> Subject: Judge Rank, 2009
Masters Final <BR>> <BR>> Judge Rankings from 2009 Masters
Final. Belated information for > inquiring minds; This will be on the
NSRCA website at some point, > as I complete the
assessment: <BR>> <BR>> Judge: Scores <BR>> R Lewis
879.0 875.2 <BR>> G Miller 824.3 804.2 <BR>> J Lowe 720.8
861.4 <BR>> T Romano 778.9 946.0 <BR>> M Hunt 757.1
769.8 <BR>> B Clemmons 903.8 785.1 <BR>> J Dunnaway 783.7
816.8 <BR>> J Lechowski 787.3 843.1 <BR>> RVP 877.2
781.3 <BR>> T Terrenoiser 884.6 866.9 <BR>> <BR>>
Note: First 5 judges judged rounds 1 and 2; the last 5, rounds 3 and
4 <BR>> <BR>> Regards, <BR>> <BR>>
MattK <BR>> <BR>> = <BR>>
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