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size=2>John, good points however you assume <SPAN
class=478024021-24092010>I</SPAN> have more to give to<SPAN
class=478024021-24092010>
</SPAN>the game. Like most I h<SPAN
class=478024021-24092010>a</SPAN>ve a demanding professional and personal life. <SPAN
class=478024021-24092010>I'm tapped.
</SPAN>Masters as a destination class <SPAN
class=478024021-24092010>works for me given the time I'm able to
commit.</SPAN><SPAN class=478024021-24092010> Instead of seeing me as
a hinderence in Masters why not look upon me as the benchmark or a role
model of achievement. If I can do it so can anyone else who is willing to
put in the work.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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class=478024021-24092010></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=478024021-24092010>I do support your thoughts of changing the
advancement system.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>~Glen Watson</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>AMA 136878</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>NSRCA 2293</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John
Gayer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 24, 2010 4:19 PM<BR><B>To:</B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA
sequences for2011 andbeyond<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Glen,<BR><BR>If you don't want to be forced to move to FAI, then you
must accept that there are those in other classes who do not wish to advance to
the next class either. Peer pressure and the challenge of learning more complex
maneuvers and doing better at a higher level are expected to work for Sportsman
through Advanced but not for Masters? <BR><BR>While F3A maneuvers are controlled
by the FAI, there is nothing international about doing a loop with an
integrated 8 point. It is, however, a challenge to do well. Why are so
many of the Masters flyers disinterested in new challenges, new maneuvers, new
competition? These are the things that drove them to excel in the lower classes
and in Masters and then it all stops?<BR><BR>I would think that winning the NATS
in any class would lead one to look around and say "where's the next hill to
climb?"<BR><BR>I firmly believe there needs to be some changes made in the
advancement process. It should be the same across the board for all classes
including Masters.<BR>In the past I have suggested abolishing the current
advancement rules and replacing it with the following:<BR><BR><FONT
color=#3333ff>A competitor will select the class to be flown during the calendar
year. This selected class may be any higher class or the next lower class than
that flown in the previous calendar year. The set of classes referred to is
401-404 and 406.</FONT><BR><BR>This would at least make advancement requirements
consistent for all participants and is very easy to enforce.<BR><BR>John
Gayer<BR>AMA 75102<BR>NSRCA 632<BR>ex Sportsman, Advanced, Expert. Master, F3A
and now thoroughly challenged by Advanced(again)<BR><BR><BR><BR>On 9/24/2010
2:22 PM, Glen Watson wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>...I probably meet Dave's description of a Masters'
pilot who chooses not to compete in an International class. There are
many personal reason why this is the case. i.e. desire, age, dollars,
time etc.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>It's amazing to me the same issues are raised
year-to-year about changing the current establishment (AMA rules) to meet
one's needs. Instead of trying to force someone like me to move-on
to FAI why can't the pilots who view someone like me as a potential
sandbagger work a bit harder in their respective class to become as
competitive as they can. I do not mean to come across arrogant, just
voicing my opinion regarding attitude's I've witness from the
pattern community. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>I recognize the level of time, money and commitment
it takes to achieve excellence. That's why I enjoy the sport of pattern,
it's the challenge of being competitive within the stated
rules.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>~Glen Watson</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>AMA 136878</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
class=395115419-24092010>NSRCA 2293</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> <A class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Dave<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 24, 2010 11:32
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'General pattern discussion'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011
andbeyond<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">John,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m not quite sure
how to respond as I think my commentary made perfect
sense.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’ll try it another
way –<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The
<ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">US</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION> has a substantial number of
pilots that do not aspire to international competition. Many Masters
pilots have expressed the opinion that if they were required to fly a more
difficult schedule, or fly multiple schedules, they would drop out of the
event. So why force them into a class that contains elements they
clearly don’t want, and for which they have virtually no input or
control? How does chasing people out of the event benefit pattern in the
<ST1:COUNTRY-REGION w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">US</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION>?<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">With respect to
“</SPAN></FONT>ALL the lower classes and maneuvers are selected by someone
else(the sequence committee)”<FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I couldn’t disagree
more. The Seq Com has always been comprised of pilots from all classes,
and the direction taken by the Seq Com has always been based on survey results
and feedback from the masses. “Someone else” is us, just like the judges
are us.<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><BR>Dave
Lockhart<O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>
[<A class=moz-txt-link-freetext
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<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John
Gayer<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September
24, 2010 12:09 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General
pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
beyond</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That makes no sense. Every other country has resolved
the issue of having their own internal classes and then finally advancing
their best pilots to F3A. Just because the maneuvers are selected by an
international committee on which we are represented is not a reason to
preclude F3A from an advancement process. We only have Turnaround pattern in
this country because the FAI led the way and we decided to follow rather than
go the way of the dodo.<BR>>From my point of view, ALL the lower classes
and maneuvers are selected by someone else(the sequence committee). For F3A
that committe is international. So what?<BR><BR>John Gayer<BR>NSRCA
632<BR><BR>On 9/24/2010 8:36 AM, Dave wrote: <O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U1:SMARTTAGTYPE
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</xml><![endif]-->I believe the practical perspective is that FAI-F3A is an
AMA class, but it does not run in accordance with AMA rules (except where FAI
is silent), and AMA has virtually no control over F3A. Given AMA has no
control over F3A, that is a key point in not requiring advancement to F3A from
Masters.<U1:P></U1:P></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Regards,<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Dave
Lockhart<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gene
Maurice<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday,
September 24, 2010 8:18 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'General pattern
discussion'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
beyond</SPAN></FONT><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sorry,
FAI is an AMA class, 406, it’s only that the Sporting Code supersedes,
doesn’t replace, the AMA rule book and the exemption from advancement.
>From the 2009-2010 rule
book:<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">RADIO
CONTROL PATTERN <U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">For
events 401, 402, 403, 404, 406.
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">7.
Pattern event classes: The Pattern event
shall<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">be
divided into five (5) classes. The first four
(4<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">shall (in
order of increasing difficulty) be
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">referred
to as Sportsman, Intermediate,
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Advanced,
and Masters. The fifth class shall be
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">referred
to as the FAI class. The Sportsman
class<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">is
supplemental (see Supplemental and
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Provisional
Rules, page 2). Competitors must
be<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">advised
prior to the start of the contest of any
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">planned
deviations from standard AMA rules
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">pertaining
to the events they have entered.
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">19. FAI
Pattern Maneuvers: The FAI class
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">shall fly
according to the current FAI RC
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Aerobatics
(F3A) rules. The noise limit shall be
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">the
current noise limit used in AMA competition
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">for
classes 401-404, except in the case of a <ST1:PLACE
u4:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u4:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION
w:st="on"><ST1:PLACE
w:st="on">USA</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE>
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Team
Selection contest, where the noise limit
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">shall be
the current FAI noise rule. The
builder-<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">of-the-model
rule, if any, shall not be enforced.
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">The AMA
Competition Regulations will be
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">applied
when the FAI Sporting Code is silent on,
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">or does
not provide guidance concerning the
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">conduct
or rules of the FAI - F3A events.
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">
8.2.5: There is no mandatory <U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">advancement
into FAI from the Masters class.
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Contestants
may enter their current AMA class
<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">or the
FAI class at any contest but not
both.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Gene
Maurice<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></FONT></ST1:PLACE><FONT
color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri>, <ST1:STATE u4:st="on"><ST1:STATE
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">AMA
3408<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">NSRCA
877<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
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style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<DIV>
<DIV
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dave
Harmon<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday,
September 24, 2010 12:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'General pattern
discussion'<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
beyond<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi
Vince….well….FAI/F3A is not an AMA class…..Masters and below ARE….so…FAI/F3A
cannot be a destination class for an AMA
event.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2
face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Dave
Harmon<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2
face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">NSRCA
586<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2
face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2
face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sperry,
Ok.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><O:P></O:P></P></DIV>
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style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><U1:P><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"></SPAN></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Vicente "Vince"
Bortone<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday,
September 23, 2010 9:24 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
beyond<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P><FONT color=black size=3 face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think that making FAI-F3A
destination class will be easier natural solution. How we are going to
organize local contests having one additional class?<BR><BR>Vicente
"Vince" Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Dave Harmon" <A
href="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net"
moz-do-not-send="true"><k6xyz@sbcglobal.net></A><BR>To: "General pattern
discussion" <A href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
moz-do-not-send="true"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A><BR>Sent:
Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:12:00 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
beyond<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">>></SPAN></SPAN></FONT>
time because the new class would <O:P></O:P></P><U1:P></U1:P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">be
populated from the other classes….like Masters and
Intermediate.<<<<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">arrrrgghhh……I meant Advanced……another class between
Advanced and Masters.<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sorry….<U1:P></U1:P><O:P></O:P></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times Ne"><SPAN><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times Ne"><SPAN><U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><O:P></O:P></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2
face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Dave
Harmon</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B><O:P></O:P></P><U1:P></U1:P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2
face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN
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