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I usually fall way behind when every time I check my email the list has
60 new posts but I finally caught up to the end :) There will probably
be 5 more posts while I am writing this.<br>
<br>
I do fly masters, although not at a top level. The sequences have
increased in complexity over time. As some have mentioned early FAI P
sequences are easier than the current masters sequence. Back then
masters pilots also complained that the FAI sequence was too difficult
to fly. I think I got started flying again when the avalanche with the
snap on the bottom was the current pattern. I didn't like the maneuver
and do not think I actually flew a contest with that maneuver in it as
it was changing the next year. But how many people would really be
bothered by it now? If there were some maneuvers with integrated rolls
(while flying upwards) we would all learn to fly them. Some better
than others. Another way to help separate out the top fliers. But no
one would lose a plane because of it. <br>
<br>
I know people hate to compare us to IMAC but their beginner sequence
has no breaks to leave the box, and integrated rollers are started in
the middle classes. Yes they have different judging criteria
especially for loops with integrated rolls, but if they can learn them
then so can you. I would welcome integrated rolling maneuvers and like
the rest of you would practice them to the best of my ability. I can't
believe any one would drop out of pattern because of it. If it is
really beyond your capabilities then I suspect you are scoring low in
masters anyway and have the option to move back to advanced, or wait to
move up.<br>
<br>
Stuart C.<br>
<br>
On 9/24/2010 2:32 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:
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From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</a><br>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:31:55 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011
and beyond<br>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">John,</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">I’m not
quite sure how to respond as I think my commentary made perfect sense.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">I’ll try it
another way –</span></font></p>
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style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">The US has a
substantial number of pilots that do not aspire to international
competition. Many Masters pilots have expressed the opinion that if
they were required to fly a more difficult schedule, or fly multiple
schedules, they would drop out of the event. So why force them into a
class that contains elements they clearly don’t want, and for which
they have virtually no input or control? How does chasing people out
of the event benefit pattern in the US?</span></font></p>
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style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">With respect
to “</span></font>ALL the lower classes and maneuvers are selected by
someone else(the sequence committee)”<font size="2" color="navy"
face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">I couldn’t
disagree more. The Seq Com has always been comprised of pilots from
all classes, and the direction taken by the Seq Com has always been
based on survey results and feedback from the masses. “Someone else”
is us, just like the judges are us.</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Regards,</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"><br>
Dave Lockhart</span></font></p>
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style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
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style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext; font-size: 10pt;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>John Gayer<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
September 24, 2010 12:09 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color: windowtext;"></span></font></p>
</div>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">That makes no
sense. Every other country has resolved the issue of having their own
internal classes and then finally advancing their best pilots to F3A.
Just because the maneuvers are selected by an international committee
on which we are represented is not a reason to preclude F3A from an
advancement process. We only have Turnaround pattern in this country
because the FAI led the way and we decided to follow rather than go the
way of the dodo.<br>
>From my point of view, ALL the lower classes and maneuvers are
selected by someone else(the sequence committee). For F3A that committe
is international. So what?<br>
<br>
John Gayer<br>
NSRCA 632<br>
<br>
On 9/24/2010 8:36 AM, Dave wrote: </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">I believe
the practical perspective is that FAI-F3A is an AMA class, but it does
not run in accordance with AMA rules (except where FAI is silent), and
AMA has virtually no control over F3A. Given AMA has no control over
F3A, that is a key point in not requiring advancement to F3A from
Masters.</span></font></p>
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style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Regards,</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;">Dave Lockhart</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
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style="font-family: Arial; color: navy; font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font></p>
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<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
size="2" face="Tahoma"><span
style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Gene
Maurice<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
September 24, 2010 8:18 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'General pattern
discussion'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font></p>
</div>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Sorry,
FAI is an AMA class, 406, it’s only that the Sporting Code supersedes,
doesn’t replace, the AMA rule book and the exemption from advancement.
>From the 2009-2010 rule book:</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">RADIO
CONTROL PATTERN </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">For
events 401, 402, 403, 404, 406. </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">7.
Pattern event classes: The Pattern event shall</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">be
divided into five (5) classes. The first four (4</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">shall
(in order of increasing difficulty) be </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">referred
to as Sportsman, Intermediate, </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Advanced,
and Masters. The fifth class shall be </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">referred
to as the FAI class. The Sportsman class</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">is
supplemental (see Supplemental and </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Provisional
Rules, page 2). Competitors must be</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">advised
prior to the start of the contest of any </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">planned
deviations from standard AMA rules </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">pertaining
to the events they have entered. </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">19.
FAI Pattern Maneuvers: The FAI class </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">shall
fly according to the current FAI RC </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Aerobatics
(F3A) rules. The noise limit shall be </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">the
current noise limit used in AMA competition </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">for
classes 401-404, except in the case of a USA </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Team
Selection contest, where the noise limit </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">shall
be the current FAI noise rule. The builder-</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">of-the-model
rule, if any, shall not be enforced. </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">The
AMA Competition Regulations will be </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">applied
when the FAI Sporting Code is silent on, </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">or
does not provide guidance concerning the </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">conduct
or rules of the FAI - F3A events. </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">
8.2.5: There is no mandatory </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">advancement
into FAI from the Masters class. </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Contestants
may enter their current AMA class </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">or
the FAI class at any contest but not both.</span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"> </span></span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="2" color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span
style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Gene
Maurice</span></span></font></p>
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style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gene.maurice@sgmservice.com">gene.maurice@sgmservice.com</a></span></span></font></p>
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877</span></span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Dave
Harmon<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday,
September 24, 2010 12:19 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'General pattern
discussion'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> </span></font></p>
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style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: Calibri; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 11pt;">Hi
Vince….well….FAI/F3A is not an AMA class…..Masters and below
ARE….so…FAI/F3A cannot be a destination class for an AMA event.</span></span></font></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">Dave
Harmon</span></span></font></b></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">NSRCA
586</span></span></font></b></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net</span></span></font></b></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">Sperry,
Ok.</span></span></font></b></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Vicente
"Vince" Bortone<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday,
September 23, 2010 9:24 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> General pattern
discussion<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font></p>
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<font size="3" color="black" face="Arial"><span
style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;">I think that making
FAI-F3A destination class will be easier natural solution. How we are
going to organize local contests having one additional class?<br>
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Vicente "Vince" Bortone<br>
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From: "Dave Harmon" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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To: "General pattern discussion" <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:12:00 PM<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
beyond</span></font><br>
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time because the new class would </p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">be populated
from the other classes….like Masters and Intermediate.<<<</span></font></p>
<p class="ecxMsoNormal"><font size="3" color="black"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">arrrrgghhh……I
meant Advanced……another class between Advanced and Masters.</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Sorry….</span></font></p>
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Harmon</span></span></font></b></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">NSRCA
586</span></span></font></b></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net</span></span></font></b></p>
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face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><span
style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 10.5pt; font-weight: bold;">Sperry,
Ok.</span></span></font></b></p>
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