<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Wow, this thread is wearing me out...Can we get back to something a bit less sensitive, like...I don't know...How about judging Snaps or something like that... ;^ ))<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 9/24/10, Stuart Chale <I><schale@optonline.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Stuart Chale <schale@optonline.net><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond<BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 2:51 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=yiv175132286>I usually fall way behind when every time I check my email the list has 60 new posts but I finally caught up to the end :) There will probably be 5 more posts while I am writing this.<BR><BR>I do fly masters, although not at a top level. The sequences have increased in complexity over time. As some have mentioned early FAI P sequences are easier than the current masters sequence. Back then masters pilots also complained that the FAI sequence was too difficult to fly. I think I got started flying again when the avalanche with the snap on the bottom was the current pattern. I didn't like the maneuver and do not think I actually flew a contest with that maneuver in it as it was changing the next year. But how many people would really be bothered by it now? If there were some maneuvers with integrated rolls (while flying upwards) we would all learn to fly them. Some better than
others. Another way to help separate out the top fliers. But no one would lose a plane because of it. <BR><BR>I know people hate to compare us to IMAC but their beginner sequence has no breaks to leave the box, and integrated rollers are started in the middle classes. Yes they have different judging criteria especially for loops with integrated rolls, but if they can learn them then so can you. I would welcome integrated rolling maneuvers and like the rest of you would practice them to the best of my ability. I can't believe any one would drop out of pattern because of it. If it is really beyond your capabilities then I suspect you are scoring low in masters anyway and have the option to move back to advanced, or wait to move up.<BR><BR>Stuart C.<BR><BR>On 9/24/2010 2:32 PM, Joe Lachowski wrote:
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From: <A class=yiv175132286moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=DaveL322@comcast.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net">DaveL322@comcast.net</A><BR>To: <A class=yiv175132286moz-txt-link-abbreviated href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:31:55 -0400<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond<BR><BR>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’m not quite sure how to respond as I think my commentary made perfect sense.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I’ll try it another way –</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The US has a substantial number of pilots that do not aspire to international competition. Many Masters pilots have expressed the opinion that if they were required to fly a more difficult schedule, or fly multiple schedules, they would drop out of the event. So why force them into a class that contains elements they clearly don’t want, and for which they have virtually no input or control? How does chasing people out of the event benefit pattern in the US?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">With respect to “</SPAN></FONT>ALL the lower classes and maneuvers are selected by someone else(the sequence committee)”<FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I couldn’t disagree more. The Seq Com has always been comprised of pilots from all classes, and the direction taken by the Seq Com has always been based on survey results and feedback from the masses. “Someone else” is us, just like the judges are us.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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September 24, 2010 12:09 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] FW: Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN style="COLOR: windowtext"></SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">That makes no sense. Every other country has resolved the issue of having their own internal classes and then finally advancing their best pilots to F3A. Just because the maneuvers are selected by an international committee on which we are represented is not a reason to preclude F3A from an advancement process. We only have Turnaround pattern in this country because the FAI led the way and we decided to follow rather than go the way of the dodo.<BR>>From my point of view, ALL the lower classes and maneuvers are selected by someone else(the sequence committee). For F3A that committe is international. So what?<BR><BR>John Gayer<BR>NSRCA 632<BR><BR>On 9/24/2010 8:36 AM, Dave wrote: </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: navy; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I believe the practical perspective is that FAI-F3A is an AMA class, but it does not run in accordance with AMA rules (except where FAI is silent), and AMA has virtually no control over F3A. Given AMA has no control over F3A, that is a key point in not requiring advancement to F3A from Masters.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Gene Maurice<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 24, 2010 8:18 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'General pattern discussion'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Sorry, FAI is an AMA class, 406, it’s only that the Sporting Code supersedes, doesn’t replace, the AMA rule book and the exemption from advancement. >From the 2009-2010 rule book:</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">RADIO CONTROL PATTERN </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">For events 401, 402, 403, 404, 406. </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">7. Pattern event classes: The Pattern event shall</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">referred to as Sportsman, Intermediate, </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Advanced, and Masters. The fifth class shall be </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">referred to as the FAI class. The Sportsman class</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Provisional Rules, page 2). Competitors must be</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">19. FAI Pattern Maneuvers: The FAI class </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Aerobatics (F3A) rules. The noise limit shall be </SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Dave Harmon<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 24, 2010 12:19 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> 'General pattern discussion'<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face=Calibri><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Calibri; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 11pt">Hi Vince….well….FAI/F3A is not an AMA class…..Masters and below ARE….so…FAI/F3A cannot be a destination class for an AMA event.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Dave Harmon</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sperry, Ok.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=black size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A> [<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:24 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> General pattern
discussion<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</SPAN></FONT></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=black size=3 face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think that making FAI-F3A destination class will be easier natural solution. How we are going to organize local contests having one additional class?<BR><BR>Vicente "Vince" Bortone<BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Dave Harmon" <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=k6xyz@sbcglobal.net" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:k6xyz@sbcglobal.net"><k6xyz@sbcglobal.net></A><BR>To: "General pattern discussion" <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel=nofollow target=_blank ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></A><BR>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 7:12:00 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</SPAN></FONT><BR>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">be populated from the other classes….like Masters and Intermediate.<<<</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">arrrrgghhh……I meant Advanced……another class between Advanced and Masters.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3 face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sorry….</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Dave Harmon</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B></DIV>
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<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">K6XYZ[at]sbcglobal[dot]net</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B></DIV>
<P class=yiv175132286ecxMsoNormal><B><FONT color=#1f497d size=2 face="Comic Sans MS"><SPAN style="COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'; COLOR: rgb(31,73,125); FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sperry, Ok.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></B></DIV></DIV>
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