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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regarding batteries……<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I started flying electric pattern in 2006,
after 3 years of learning electric on smaller foamies and 40 sized sport
planes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I had a small number of 5000 mah packs not
make 100 flights….and they were replaced or upgraded very cheap by the
manufacturer. I experimented with some lower capacity 3800 – 4300 mah
packs, and they absolutely did not have the longevity as the 5000-5300 mah
packs, so I quit using them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The last few years, I’ve flown the
Masters schedule occasionally for fun…..it is always very close to the same
mah used as an FAI P flight. Today, I see many setups out there that can
be easily copied and are easily capable of 100+ flights with zero issues for
the long Masters or the FAI P.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Making Masters shorter might decrease cost
for electrics…..but that assumes the batteries stay at 5000-5300 mah…..and
no extra practice is done at the end of the flight.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Electric certainly has a learning curve to
it….and making the event less demanding could make the learning curve
less steep…..but we’ve never allowed glow newbies restarts when
they set the needle badly and flamed out…..so why should electrics be
catered to? Doesn’t make sense to me, and I don’t think it is
needed – it is very rare that I see an experienced electric pilot
destroying equipment because of the length of the Masters sequence, and it is
all to easy for an electric newbie to copy an existing setup that is
competitive and durable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><br>
Dave Lockhart<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net"><font
color=black><span style='color:windowtext'>DaveL322@comcast.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></a></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>rcmaster199@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 23, 2010
10:51 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Masters is the most advanced class we
have in AMA, with arguably the most skilled group of pilots collectively,
flying it. It always has been longer for purposes of differentiation of that
group. The progressive nature of Pattern classes should make that fact obvious
but apparently some folks continue to argue that Masters gets preferential
treatment by getting a disproportionate amount of time at any event.
Well, in a manner of speaking, yes, Masters does get preferential treatment,
out of necessity. So does F3A. It always has been so and will continue as long
as the sport is flown.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> The number of pilots in Masters is
what makes the class take so long to complete a round...not so much the length
of the schedule<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>A couple decades ago in pre TurnAround
times, Intermediate (called Sportsman then) was by far the largest class and
took hours to get through a round, eventhough it had only 10-11 maneuvers in
it.. Masters, in contrast was the smallest/shortest eventhough the schedule was
just as long as today.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I appreciate Scott's honesty regarding
batteries. If flying a 20% shorter Masters schedule helps preserve equipment, I
am all for it. To me, it would help also preserve our numbers and
participation in the long term. Who wants to blow up his equipment? I certainly
don't. How long will someone that loses batteries regularly, stick with
it? I would argue not long. Of course we have powerplant options but many just
love the plug and play nature of electric. It helps participation in and preservation
of the sport and, to me, that's a good thing<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>MattK<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Scott Smith <js.smith@verizon.net><br>
To: '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 6:49 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The short sequence
is not about fair share of contestant time…it’s about the torture
FAI pilots must endure while judging local contests (FAI pilots in my area
judge twice as many rounds as other classes and spend twice as long per
round in the chair.)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Some say 19
maneuvers versus 23 only shaves a minute of flight time so what’s the
point? I view it as 18% fewer maneuvers that have to be judged and 18%
less time in the chair. I think that’s worth considering.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I favor the short
sequence out of consideration for those that must judge it. Flying
electric, I also like being able to repeat any sequence of four maneuvers
during practice without fear of damaging the batteries.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Scott</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>D1 Masters</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Matthew Frederick<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 23, 2010
1:25 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Who decided that
there should be a fair “share” of contest time? That’s the
most ridiculous argument I’ve ever heard. Masters takes longer not just
because the number of maneuvers in the sequence but also because Masters pilots
probably fly half the speed of any class below them. Who cares? Should we do a
survey to see the average number of people in each class nationwide and make
the sequences long enough that all classes have equal air time? Sportsman (or
Novice as I call it) would end up with a 30 maneuver sequence. The amount of
time to fly a sequence should have NOTHING to do with this. Neither should
powerplant choices, average number of contestants, or anything else anyone
wants to throw out there. Simply put, the Masters sequence needs to be
sufficient in difficulty to keep it competitive year after year for those who
have made it a destination, and also difficult enough (and appropriate) for
those who want to be able to move up to F3A eventually.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color=blue><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>John Gayer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 22,
2010 5:54 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Derek,<br>
<br>
When it comes to the pattern length we should all have a say. Why should the
Masters pattern have more maneuvers and take longer than any other pattern? You
cannot say there is no impact on other flyers and their judging duties when
Masters is often the largest class and use more than their share of the contest
time as well. You <i><span style='font-style:italic'>could</span></i> say that
the "content" of each class pattern should be up to those with
"skin" in the game.<br>
<br>
There was nothing in the survey that stated "Vote only for the patterns in
the class you are flying or may fly next year". Nor do I believe that such
a statement should be added.<br>
<br>
John<br>
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On 9/22/2010 4:30 PM, Derek Koopowitz wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>After writing my reply to you I got to thinking again and I don't agree
with your assessment. This is about selecting a sequence that matter to
the people that fly it not to the people that judge it or to the people that
may have to wait around to fly again because of a large Masters turnout.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Dave Burton <<a
href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net"><u><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'>burtona@atmc.net</span></font></u></a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Derek,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I really object to your definition of
who has “Skin in the game” - <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>We all do if we pay our dues and attend contest</span></b>.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>The “skin” is the impact of
a long vs. short sequence for every Masters flyer, Flyer who will be flying
Masters in the next two years, every flyer/non flyer who judges at a contest,
and every other flyer in all the other class who have to wait until the typically
large Masters class finishes whatever sequence they fly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>So, whether I fly Masters in the next
two years or not, I intend to let my opinion be known to my district VP and I
expect him to give my view the same weight of any other opinion from
“Masters” flyers or others. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>This is an issue that should not be
decided by only “Masters” flyers.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Dave Burton</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font color=blue><span
style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><u><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></font></u></a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Derek Koopowitz<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 22,
2010 5:31 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">General
pattern discussion</st1:PersonName></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [NSRCA-discussion]
Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and beyond<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Over 10 months ago the NSRCA Sequence Committee completed its work on
the new sequences. These were posted on the NSRCA website for review and
comment - see below:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a href="http://nsrca.us/proposedsequences/2011sequences.html"
target="_blank"><u><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'>http://nsrca.us/proposedsequences/2011sequences.html</span></font></u></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Included in all this material was a draft document that outlined the
process on how sequences are developed, tested and approved and the
makeup/content of the sequences based on the class it is meant to serve.
This document is titled "NSRCA Procedures, Standards and Guidelines
for AMA R/C Precision Aerobatics Sequence Development". A mouthful,
but it does outline a lot of information. It details the charter for the
Sequence Committee, sequence development standards and guidelines for all
classes, catalog of maneuvers for all classes and the process that the NSRCA
will follow in designing, testing and approving changes to sequences, or for
proposed sequences. These sequence development standards and guidelines
have been in place for about 4 years now and have been used very successfully
to build the current set of sequences that everyone is flying today, in
addition to the prior Masters sequence (and the new one as well).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Overall we received positive comments on the proposed sequences from
Sportsman through Masters. As you know, there were two sequences
developed for Masters, a long sequence using the standard 23 maneuver count and
a short sequence using 19 maneuvers. In the time since we posted the
sequences, some informal surveys were also made on the NSRCA website as well as
on RCU asking for a preference of either the short or long Masters schedule.
The overwhelming majority of respondents chose the short sequence. However,
these surveys were a little flawed in that we didn't really know who was voting
for them - were they all judges/pilots who voted because they didn't want to
judge a long sequence, or were they really current and/or future Masters pilots
that really did want to fly a shorter sequence.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Since the release of the proposed schedules, and some post Nats
comments, the sequence committee has been hard at work making some tweaks to
the short schedule with a view to increasing the difficulty level of the short
Masters sequence to bring it into line with the long Masters sequence and also
to ensure that we weren't lowering the bar in difficulty by introducing a
shorter sequence. Bear in mind that the short sequence is only 19
maneuvers (17 of them flyable) so raising the difficulty level is a challenge
if one is to avoid using some existing F3A type maneuvers, or "airplane
killers", and to only use maneuvers that match the philosophy that we've
embraced for a number of years. Since we've never developed a short Masters
sequence, we need to make sure we get it right and that it not only provides a
challenge to those that fly it but that it still provides a somewhat relatively
higher jump for those pilots that are moving up from Advanced. We realize
that creating a perfect schedule is not going to happen - we won't be able to
please every pilot that moves up from Advanced, nor will we be able to please
some former F3A pilots that think the schedule is too easy and isn't enough of
a challenge. There has to be a balance. The Sequence Committee came
up with some good positive changes and these are being vetted/tested as I write
this. They've received extremely positive feedback from everyone that has
either flown the newer short sequence on a simulator or using their pattern
plane at the field. By the end of this weekend we'll know for sure
whether it is a keeper or not.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>When we do post the revised sequence I would like all of you that have
"skin in this game", meaning you are a current Masters pilot or will
be moving to Masters in the next year or two, to please contact your NSRCA
District VP and let them know what your preference is - short or long sequence.
The reason they need to know is that the NSRCA board will vote in the
next couple of weeks to approve all the proposed sequences and also to select
which sequence the Masters class will be flying in 2011/2012.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The Sequence Committee is comprised of Joe Lachowski, Dave Lockhart,
Verne Koester, Bill Glaze, Archie Stafford, and Richard Lewis. They've
put in an extraordinary amount of work on these sequences and documentation and
deserve huge kudos from everyone! Thanks guys - your work is very much
appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>We've also created a Sequence Committee section on the NSRCA website
which will have more information soon. It will contain the updated draft
documentation and all the proposed sequences in one location. You can get
to the new section from the main menu - just look for Sequence Committee - it
is near the bottom of the menu.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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