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    Instead of flying back to back sportsman schedules, I suggest that
    the CD direct the judges to use that time for an immediate two
    minute debrief with the pilot, gently pointing out where he could
    improve and praising the good parts. If the contest is not under
    severe time pressure, I believe this would do a lot for the
    Sportsman, both in his flying and in feeling included. Assigning
    experienced callers often has a similar effect. <br>
    <br>
    John<br>
    <br>
    On 9/23/2010 8:16 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com">ldiamond@diamondrc.com</a> wrote:
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              <div>I agree, hence why I stated it in parenthesis at the
                end of my comment. My opinion is that a Sportsman pilot
                would only fly 1/2 of the rounds as the rest of the
                pilots. Pro's and Con's with this...When I flew
                Sportsman, I can say I felt a little cheated not flying
                on a Sunday because all my rounds were complete by the
                third round on Saturday.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>I also believe the intent was to allow for more
                flight maneuvers at a contest to increase the learning
                curve of the Sportsman and reward the best sequence of
                the flight. I would find it difficult to believe the
                intent of this rule was get them done faster.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>As a CD I would never use the Sportsman Option to
                count as two rounds.</div>
              <div> </div>
              <div>Larry Diamond</div>
              <div><br>
                --- On <b>Thu, 9/23/10, Jon Lowe <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">&lt;jonlowe@aol.com&gt;</a></i></b>
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                From: Jon Lowe <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com">&lt;jonlowe@aol.com&gt;</a><br>
                Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA sequences
                for 2011 and beyond<br>
                To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>
                Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 10:04 AM<br>
                <br>
                <div id="yiv371565653"><font color="black" face="Arial,
                    Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">The<span
                      style="font-size: small;"
                      class="yiv371565653Apple-style-span"> rule for
                      sportsman only says <strong>"suggested procedure"</strong>.
                       Where the suggested procedure leaves off and the
                      requirement restarts is unclear.  We've used the
                      tow rounds per fligh</span><br>
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                        face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><font
                          color="black" face="arial" size="2">Jon Lowe</font></font></div>
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                    <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica; color:
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                      Message-----<br>
                      From: Gene Maurice
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gene.maurice@sgmservice.com">&lt;gene.maurice@sgmservice.com&gt;</a><br>
                      To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ldiamond@diamondrc.com">ldiamond@diamondrc.com</a>; 'General pattern
                      discussion'
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">&lt;nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org&gt;</a><br>
                      Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2010 8:48 am<br>
                      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed NSRCA
                      sequences for 2011 and beyond<br>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><strong>"BTW,
                              the rules also state that a CD can have
                              Sportsman fly their sequence back-to-back
                              if they'd like to fly a little longer."</strong></div>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-size: 10pt;">It's a little
                              vague, but I don't interpret the Sportsman
                              Option to be considered as two rounds. I
                              have seen this done in the past (albeit
                              not recent). The scoring is the
                              best sequence of the flight with TO/L
                              counting the same for both. PACSS doesn't
                              solve for this, so it's difficult to
                              produce scores for this (suggested
                              procedure).</span></div>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
                              11pt;">I’m working on it, but, as you
                              said, “it’ difficult to produce……….” AND
                              difficult to program. Part of the problem
                              is the statement in the rules that “The
                              Contest Director may use this option on a
                              round by round basis.”.  </span></div>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
                              11pt;">The scoring can be handled in the
                              system today by changing the Scoring
                              Parameters to “Throw Out 0 High Rounds 
                              and Throw Out 0 Low Rounds”, produce the
                              standing for all 12 rounds and manually
                              determine the ‘keepers’.   </span></div>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
                              11pt;"> I would like to hear how you would
                              like to see this presented in the system.</span></div>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
                              11pt;">Thanks,</span></div>
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                          <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                              style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size:
                              11pt;">Gene Maurice</span></div>
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                                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 22,
                                2010 9:12 PM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
                                Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011 and
                                beyond</span></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><strong>"BTW,
                                        the rules also state that a CD
                                        can have Sportsman fly their
                                        sequence back-to-back if they'd
                                        like to fly a little longer."</strong></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">It's a
                                        little vague, but I don't
                                        interpret the Sportsman Option
                                        to be considered as two rounds.
                                        I have seen this done in the
                                        past (albeit not recent). The
                                        scoring is the best sequence of
                                        the flight with TO/L counting
                                        the same for both. PACSS doesn't
                                        solve for this, so it's
                                        difficult to produce scores for
                                        this (suggested procedure).</span></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">OK,
                                        back on topic...</span></div>
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                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Masters
                                        Short Vs Long...I haven't
                                        compared the two...However, IMHO
                                        keep the length and K-Factor
                                        constant in terms of flight time
                                        and difficulty for every AMA
                                        Class. If the Masters Class is
                                        subjected to a "Feature Creep"
                                        process to challenge those that
                                        have been in the class many
                                        moons, then the gap between
                                        Advanced and Masters grows. Not
                                        a good thing for all AMA classes
                                        as this gap will surely be
                                        distributed to the lower classes
                                        for balance.</span></div>
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                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Using
                                        this philosophy, if a Master
                                        Pilot feels that the sequence is
                                        too easy and no longer
                                        a challenge to them, I
                                        say...Move up to FAI...</span></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Looking
                                        forward, into the future,
                                        seriously...If Masters Pilots do
                                        not move up to FAI and see the
                                        Masters Class as a Destination
                                        Class, what competition will our
                                        prospective US Team Pilots face
                                        to get ready? Currently, there
                                        are few people flying FAI at
                                        local contests. This can only
                                        mean that the level of
                                        competition for FAI is down in
                                        the USA. If the level of
                                        competition is down, how can one
                                        become consistent and reach
                                        their potential as a World USA
                                        Team Member?</span></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">If the
                                        Masters Class is not held at a
                                        constant level of difficulty,
                                        then there is No Incentive to
                                        move up to FAI. The US will
                                        suffer for it in World
                                        Competition as pilots or not
                                        challenged on a regular basis
                                        and practicing for the Worlds is
                                        not the same as Competition
                                        Experience at a contest.</span></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">For the
                                        argument of a Masters Pilot to
                                        say, “I don’t have and never
                                        will have a desire to fly FAI”,
                                        I say, "no problem"…Just don’t
                                        expect the level of Masters to
                                        become more difficult to
                                        challenge you.</span></div>
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                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Now
                                        that you read all this, I don’t
                                        have skin in the game, or do
                                        I…If a pilot wants to fly, I
                                        will judge no matter how long
                                        the sequence is.</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Many of
                                        the guys at the top have
                                        invested their time in me to
                                        become a better pilot. I would
                                        never turn my back and say, "I
                                        don't want to judge because the
                                        Masters Class is too long".
                                        That, IMHO, would be a slap in
                                        the face to every pilot that
                                        called and coached me to be a
                                        better pilot. I don't know of
                                        anybody that has learned to fly
                                        Pattern on their own.</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">My .02,
                                        flame suit on!!!</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Larry
                                        “No Skin in the Game” Diamond</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">Intermediate
                                        Pilot, Bottom Feeder</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size: 10pt;">NSRCA
                                        3083</span></div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">AMA
                                        5024</div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><br>
                                        <br>
                                        --- On <b>Wed, 9/22/10, Derek
                                          Koopowitz <i>&lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"
                                              rel="nofollow"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              ymailto="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>&gt;</i></b>
                                        wrote:</div>
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                                  </div>
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                                    <div style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"
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                                      From: Derek Koopowitz &lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=derekkoopowitz@gmail.com"
                                        rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                        ymailto="mailto:derekkoopowitz@gmail.com">derekkoopowitz@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
                                      Proposed NSRCA sequences for 2011
                                      and beyond<br>
                                      To: "General pattern discussion"
                                      &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
                                        rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                        ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                      Date: Wednesday, September 22,
                                      2010, 7:10 PM</div>
                                    <div id="yiv371565653yiv1960264070">
                                      <div>
                                        <div style="margin-bottom:
                                          12pt;"
                                          class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">Pattern
                                          length for each class has been
                                          a design criteria for a number
                                          of years and it has been used
                                          very successfully to build
                                          current and past sequences.
                                           Since we are using each of
                                          the classes as a building
                                          block to the next higher
                                          class, it makes sense to use
                                          each sequence to work on and
                                          build flying skills.  One can
                                          only do so much with maneuvers
                                          in a class before it becomes
                                          too intense for the pilot and
                                          wears them out (in the lower
                                          classes) - that's why
                                          Sportsman has box entry/exit
                                          breaks during the sequence.
                                           BTW, the rules also state
                                          that a CD can have Sportsman
                                          fly their sequence
                                          back-to-back if they'd like to
                                          fly a little longer.</div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">On
                                            Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:53
                                            PM, John Gayer &lt;<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=jgghome@comcast.net"
                                              rel="nofollow"
                                              target="_blank">jgghome@comcast.net</a>&gt;
                                            wrote:</div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div
                                              class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">Derek,<br>
                                              <br>
                                              When it comes to the
                                              pattern length we should
                                              all have a say. Why should
                                              the Masters pattern have
                                              more maneuvers and take
                                              longer than any other
                                              pattern? You cannot say
                                              there is no impact on
                                              other flyers and their
                                              judging duties when
                                              Masters is often the
                                              largest class and use more
                                              than their share of the
                                              contest time as well. You
                                              <i>could</i> say that the
                                              "content" of each class
                                              pattern should be up to
                                              those with "skin" in the
                                              game.<br>
                                              <br>
                                              There was nothing in the
                                              survey that stated "Vote
                                              only for the patterns in
                                              the class you are flying
                                              or may fly next year". Nor
                                              do I believe that such a
                                              statement should be added.<br>
                                              <span style="color:
                                                rgb(136, 136, 136);"><br>
                                                John</span> </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  On 9/22/2010 4:30 PM,
                                                  Derek Koopowitz wrote:
                                                </div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">Dave,
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">After
                                                    writing my reply to
                                                    you I got to
                                                    thinking again and I
                                                    don't agree with
                                                    your assessment.
                                                     This is about
                                                    selecting a sequence
                                                    that matter to the
                                                    people that fly it
                                                    not to the people
                                                    that judge it or to
                                                    the people that may
                                                    have to wait around
                                                    to fly again because
                                                    of a large Masters
                                                    turnout.</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">Flame
                                                    away...</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">-Derek</div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"> </div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="yiv371565653MsoNormal">On
                                                      Wed, Sep 22, 2010
                                                      at 3:05 PM, Dave
                                                      Burton &lt;<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=burtona@atmc.net"
                                                        rel="nofollow"
                                                        target="_blank">burtona@atmc.net</a>&gt;
                                                      wrote:</div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(31, 73,
                                                          125);
                                                          font-size:
                                                          11pt;">Derek,</span></div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div
                                                        class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                          style="color:
                                                          rgb(31, 73,
                                                          125);
                                                          font-size:
                                                          11pt;">I
                                                          really object
                                                          to your
                                                          definition of
                                                          who has “Skin
                                                          in the game” -
                                                           <b>We all do
                                                          if we pay our
                                                          dues and
                                                          attend contest</b>.</span></div>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                        style="color:
                                                        rgb(31, 73,
                                                        125); font-size:
                                                        11pt;">The
                                                        “skin” is the
                                                        impact of a long
                                                        vs. short
                                                        sequence for
                                                        every Masters
                                                        flyer, Flyer who
                                                        will be flying
                                                        Masters in the
                                                        next two years,
                                                        every flyer/non
                                                        flyer who judges
                                                        at a contest,
                                                        and every other
                                                        flyer in all the
                                                        other class who
                                                        have to wait
                                                        until the
                                                        typically large
                                                        Masters class
                                                        finishes
                                                        whatever
                                                        sequence they
                                                        fly.</span></div>
                                                    <div
                                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                        style="color:
                                                        rgb(31, 73,
                                                        125); font-size:
                                                        11pt;">So,
                                                        whether I fly
                                                        Masters in the
                                                        next two years
                                                        or not, I intend
                                                        to let my
                                                        opinion be known
                                                        to my district
                                                        VP and I expect
                                                        him to give my
                                                        view the same
                                                        weight of any
                                                        other opinion
                                                        from “Masters”
                                                        flyers or
                                                        others. </span></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                      style="color:
                                                      rgb(31, 73, 125);
                                                      font-size: 11pt;">This
                                                      is an issue that
                                                      should not be
                                                      decided by only
                                                      “Masters” flyers.</span></div>
                                                </div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                    style="color:
                                                    rgb(31, 73, 125);
                                                    font-size: 11pt;">Dave
                                                    Burton</span></div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><span
                                                    style="color:
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                                                    font-size: 11pt;"> </span></div>
                                              </div>
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                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><b><span
                                                      style="font-size:
                                                      10pt;">From:</span></b><span
                                                    style="font-size:
                                                    10pt;"> <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
                                                      rel="nofollow"
                                                      target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>
                                                    [mailto:<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
                                                      rel="nofollow"
                                                      target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
                                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Derek
                                                    Koopowitz<br>
                                                    <b>Sent:</b>
                                                    Wednesday, September
                                                    22, 2010 5:31 PM<br>
                                                    <b>To:</b> General
                                                    pattern discussion</span></div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653MsoNormal"><br>
                                                  <b>Subject:</b>
                                                  [NSRCA-discussion]
                                                  Proposed NSRCA
                                                  sequences for 2011 and
                                                  beyond</div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div
                                              class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"> </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div
                                            class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">Over
                                            10 months ago the NSRCA
                                            Sequence Committee completed
                                            its work on the new
                                            sequences.  These were
                                            posted on the NSRCA website
                                            for review and comment - see
                                            below:</div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
                                                  class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"> </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div
                                                class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://nsrca.us/proposedsequences/2011sequences.html"
                                                  rel="nofollow"
                                                  target="_blank">http://nsrca.us/proposedsequences/2011sequences.html</a></div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div
                                              class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"> </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div
                                            class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">Included
                                            in all this material was a
                                            draft document that outlined
                                            the process on how sequences
                                            are developed, tested and
                                            approved and the
                                            makeup/content of the
                                            sequences based on the class
                                            it is meant to serve.  This
                                            document is titled "NSRCA
                                            Procedures, Standards and
                                            Guidelines for AMA R/C
                                            Precision Aerobatics
                                            Sequence Development".  A
                                            mouthful, but it does
                                            outline a lot of
                                            information.  It details the
                                            charter for the Sequence
                                            Committee, sequence
                                            development standards and
                                            guidelines for all classes,
                                            catalog of maneuvers for all
                                            classes and the process that
                                            the NSRCA will follow in
                                            designing, testing and
                                            approving changes to
                                            sequences, or for proposed
                                            sequences.  These sequence
                                            development standards and
                                            guidelines have been in
                                            place for about 4 years now
                                            and have been used very
                                            successfully to build the
                                            current set of sequences
                                            that everyone is flying
                                            today, in addition to the
                                            prior Masters sequence (and
                                            the new one as well).</div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div
                                          class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"> </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">Overall
                                        we received positive comments on
                                        the proposed sequences from
                                        Sportsman through Masters.  As
                                        you know, there were two
                                        sequences developed for Masters,
                                        a long sequence using the
                                        standard 23 maneuver count and a
                                        short sequence using 19
                                        maneuvers.  In the time since we
                                        posted the sequences, some
                                        informal surveys were also made
                                        on the NSRCA website as well as
                                        on RCU asking for a preference
                                        of either the short or long
                                        Masters schedule.  The
                                        overwhelming majority of
                                        respondents chose the short
                                        sequence.  However, these
                                        surveys were a little flawed in
                                        that we didn't really know who
                                        was voting for them - were they
                                        all judges/pilots who voted
                                        because they didn't want to
                                        judge a long sequence, or were
                                        they really current and/or
                                        future Masters pilots that
                                        really did want to fly a shorter
                                        sequence.</div>
                                    </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal"> </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div
                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">Since
                                      the release of the proposed
                                      schedules, and some post Nats
                                      comments, the sequence committee
                                      has been hard at work making some
                                      tweaks to the short schedule with
                                      a view to increasing the
                                      difficulty level of the short
                                      Masters sequence to bring it into
                                      line with the long Masters
                                      sequence and also to ensure that
                                      we weren't lowering the bar in
                                      difficulty by introducing a
                                      shorter sequence.  Bear in mind
                                      that the short sequence is only 19
                                      maneuvers (17 of them flyable) so
                                      raising the difficulty level is a
                                      challenge if one is to avoid using
                                      some existing F3A type maneuvers,
                                      or "airplane killers", and to only
                                      use maneuvers that match the
                                      philosophy that we've embraced for
                                      a number of years.  Since we've
                                      never developed a short Masters
                                      sequence, we need to make sure we
                                      get it right and that it not only
                                      provides a challenge to those that
                                      fly it but that it still provides
                                      a somewhat relatively higher jump
                                      for those pilots that are moving
                                      up from Advanced.  We realize that
                                      creating a perfect schedule is not
                                      going to happen - we won't be able
                                      to please every pilot that moves
                                      up from Advanced, nor will we be
                                      able to please some former F3A
                                      pilots that think the schedule is
                                      too easy and isn't enough of a
                                      challenge.  There has to be a
                                      balance.  The Sequence Committee
                                      came up with some good positive
                                      changes and these are being
                                      vetted/tested as I write this.
                                       They've received extremely
                                      positive feedback from everyone
                                      that has either flown the newer
                                      short sequence on a simulator or
                                      using their pattern plane at the
                                      field.  By the end of this weekend
                                      we'll know for sure whether it is
                                      a keeper or not.</div>
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                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">When
                                      we do post the revised sequence I
                                      would like all of you that have
                                      "skin in this game", meaning you
                                      are a current Masters pilot or
                                      will be moving to Masters in the
                                      next year or two, to please
                                      contact your NSRCA District VP and
                                      let them know what your preference
                                      is - short or long sequence.  The
                                      reason they need to know is that
                                      the NSRCA board will vote in the
                                      next couple of weeks to approve
                                      all the proposed sequences and
                                      also to select which sequence the
                                      Masters class will be flying in
                                      2011/2012.</div>
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                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">The
                                      Sequence Committee is comprised of
                                      Joe Lachowski, Dave Lockhart,
                                      Verne Koester, Bill Glaze, Archie
                                      Stafford, and Richard Lewis.
                                       They've put in an extraordinary
                                      amount of work on these sequences
                                      and documentation and deserve huge
                                      kudos from everyone!  Thanks guys
                                      - your work is very much
                                      appreciated!</div>
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                                      class="yiv371565653yiv1960264070msonormal">We've
                                      also created a Sequence Committee
                                      section on the NSRCA website which
                                      will have more information soon.
                                       It will contain the updated draft
                                      documentation and all the proposed
                                      sequences in one location.  You
                                      can get to the new section from
                                      the main menu - just look for
                                      Sequence Committee - it is near
                                      the bottom of the menu.</div>
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