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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Perhaps all that is needed is a switch to
turn on and off the local contest setting. When the local contest setting
is selected all optional information is grayed out.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ron</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gene Maurice<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, September 11, 2010
7:52 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
PACSS Update - Help Needed</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Ron,</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Can
you give me some details about things that you think complicate the program
that you would like to see removed. I would be glad to consider making some
things “optional”, but I really don’t want to maintain
multiple versions of the system. One of the reasons I’m make some fairly
significant change in this release is so that I don’t have to maintain an
AMA, a separate SPA version, and a 64 bit “fix” version. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Right
now in the current system all that is really required to get a contest going is
create a “New Contest”, enter the dates for the contest, select the
schedules, even there the system defaults to the current AMA schedules based
upon the date of your contest, set the contest to active. Enter contestants
name, AMA number, class, and frequency. Enter scores. Everything else is
optional. Granted, there is a lot more stuff there, but most of it is already
defaulted or can be ignore. Things like all of those scoring parameters at the
class level in Contest Setup are required for calculating scores and standings.
The rules give you these options when running a contest but the system defaults
to the most commonly used settings so you really shouldn’t have to change
any of them </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>The
system was designed for the Local Contest. I’ve CD’d or
Co-CD’d about 20+ contests over the years and built the system based upon
my experience. Stuff like “Set Flight Order” is the if you want to
use it but not required. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I
look forward to your input, thanks. </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Gene
Maurice</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>gene.maurice@sgmservice.com</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Dallas,
GA</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>AMA
3408</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>NSRCA
877</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>PACSS.sgmservice.com</span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'> </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ron Hansen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, September 11, 2010
6:24 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'General pattern discussion'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
PACSS Update - Help Needed</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>One other suggestion
would be to provide a simplified version of the program for local
contests. The complexity of the program has lead some to use other
programs. All you need for a local contest is to be able to select or
enter pilots, select the schedules and print results. All other features
should be removed for the local contest version. Bob Kane’s
suggestion is a must as well.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Kane<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, September 10, 2010
7:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
PACSS Update - Help Needed</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>As for FAI prelim/finals I would like to fly both in
a single contest, and be able to set how the program calculates the winner.
For instance:<br>
<br>
4 rounds prelim, 2 rounds finals sequence. Use best two prelims and
both finals scores. Or allow me to do the traditional best 4 of 6, but
make it my choice. Whatever choice I make applies to all pilots.<br>
<br>
BTW, I use your software and appreciate your efforts, thank you.<br>
<br>
Bob Kane<br>
getterflash@yahoo.com<br>
<br>
--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Fri, 9/10/10, Gene Maurice <i><span
style='font-style:italic'><gene.maurice@sgmservice.com></span></i></span></b>
wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
From: Gene Maurice <gene.maurice@sgmservice.com><br>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] PACSS Update - Help Needed<br>
To: "'General pattern discussion'"
<nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Date: Friday, September 10, 2010, 11:14 AM</span></font></p>
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<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am in the process of a major update to the PACSS
system and need some help. </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Part of this update drastically changes the way
Schedules are defined and used. The change will result in the system being
able to support schedules for multiple organizations, ie. AMA, MAAC, SPA,
etc., in the same release. This includes the default class name and
description being imbedded in the Schedule, Schedule Import from an external
sequential file, etc.</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>To help me work thru this process I need a couple of
things:</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>A copy of the
“SCHEDULE.MST” file from anyone who has created a custom schedule
record and used that schedule in a contest. Without this information I
can’t automatically convert the data during the release upgrade process
and would have to default any unknown schedule, that is, any schedule that is
not equal to the schedules originally delivered with the system, to
“UNKNOWN”</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>The schedule
information for any organization that would like to have schedules included
in this upgrade in Text, Word Doc, or Excel format, anything that I can
convert to a sequential file. I don’t want to have to type all that
data in!!!</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>This includes the
2011 AMA schedules, does anyone have them in the above formats.</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>In addition, I’m finally going to try and fix
the automatic processing for a contest flying both FAI Prelims and Finals.
In the past I’ve asked for input on this with little response, so
I’ll try again. Are there any scoring scenarios that should be
considered? How have you run a contest with Finals? What is currently included
in the automation is:</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>1.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>System Performs NO
automated process</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>2.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>Fly two separate
classes. Contestants will automatically be entered in both classes</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
i.e. 3 of
4 Prelims rounds has separate standings from 1 of 2 rounds of Finals</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>3.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>Change the FAI
schedule to the FINALS after PRELIM round: XX</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
Contestants assigned Schedule is automatically changed to the Finals
Schedule after the XX Prelim round, </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal style='text-indent:.5in'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>i.e. 4 of 6 rounds used
in standings calculations regardless of schedule flown</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msolistparagraph><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>4.</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:
7.0pt'> </span></font>Create a Normalized
Round 1 in the FINALS after PRELIM round: XX</p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
i.e. If 2 rounds of Finals are flown, standing would be calculated as
best 2 of 3 </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>
with the standings from the Prelims weighted
equal to the Finals</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>And finally, ANY other suggestions. All will be
considered. Without input I have to assume the system is perfect and having
worked in systems for over 35 years I know that’s not true. Besides, a
single resource designing, coding and testing a system is prone to
error!!!! </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The help is greatly
appreciated………………………..</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Gene Maurice</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>gene.maurice@sgmservice.com</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dallas, GA</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>AMA 3408</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>NSRCA 877</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>PACSS.sgmservice.com</span></font></p>
<p class=yiv1805803483msonormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p>
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