<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Yeah, and turbines are always "about 199.99mph". :-)<BR><BR>--- On <B>Thu, 9/9/10, Dave <I><DaveL322@comcast.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Dave <DaveL322@comcast.net><BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<BR>To: "'General pattern discussion'" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><BR>Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 10:45 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=plainMail>...ahem.....the answer is always "about 400' max"......<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>[mailto:<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Keith Hoard<BR>Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 9:16 AM<BR>To: General pattern discussion<BR>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<BR><BR>Then you need to ask him how he measured the height of your maneuvers.<BR><BR>Sent from my iPhone<BR><BR>On Sep 9, 2010, at 5:52, Ron Van Putte <<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vanputte@cox.net"
ymailto="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</A>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Only until someone in the FAA enforcement division happens to see an R/C<BR>airplane performing one of the tall maneuvers; then all hell will break<BR>loose.<BR>><BR>> Ron<BR>><BR>> On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Tim Taylor wrote:<BR>><BR>>> The fact is, if passed it'll be ignored as usual.<BR>>><BR>>> --- On Wed, 9/8/10, John Fuqua <<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=johnfuqua@embarqmail.com" ymailto="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> From: John Fuqua <<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=johnfuqua@embarqmail.com" ymailto="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</A>><BR>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<BR>>> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <<A
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR>>> Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 10:29 PM<BR>>><BR>>> The fact that we are having this discussion only proves the point that we<BR>>> have no real way of determining, in real time, how high we are. We are<BR>>> guessing. If the 400 foot gets to be a HARD limit we are really screwed.<BR>>><BR>>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>> From: <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>> [mailto:<A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] On Behalf Of Bill's<BR>Email<BR>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:50 PM<BR>>> To: <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott@rcfoamy.com" ymailto="mailto:scott@rcfoamy.com">scott@rcfoamy.com</A>; General pattern discussion<BR>>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<BR>>><BR>>> Sorry, FAA AC 91-57 says 400 feet, period. When within 3 miles of an<BR>>> airport you need to contact the airport.<BR>>><BR>>> The AMA Safety Code reads 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport and to<BR>>> contact the airport. AMA added a comma which changed the whole meaning.<BR>>><BR>>> FAA is now writing new rules that will affect us, to what extent remains<BR>>> to be seen.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> AC 91-57 wording:<BR>>> Do not fly model
aircraft higher than 400 feet above the surface.<BR>>> When flying aircraft within 3 miles of an airport, notify the airport<BR>>> operator, or when an air traffic facility is located at the airport,<BR>>> notify the control tower, or flight service station.<BR>>><BR>>><BR><A href="http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/" target=_blank>http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/</A><BR>>> 1acfc3f689769a56862569e70077c9cc/$FILE/ATTBJMAC/ac91-57.pdf<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> AMA Safety CODE:<BR>>><BR>>> 3. I will not fly my model aircraft higher than approximately 400 feet<BR>>> above ground level, when within three (3) miles of an airport without<BR>>> notifying the airport operator.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> On 9/8/10 6:37 PM, <A
href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=scott@rcfoamy.com" ymailto="mailto:scott@rcfoamy.com">scott@rcfoamy.com</A> wrote:<BR>>> > > From Greg at ama it is as the 1981 FAA advisory stated 400 feet agl<BR>>> within 3 miles of a CONTROLED airport.<BR>>> ><BR>>> > If flying within 3 miles the airport has to be notified as they do for<BR>the<BR>>> sailplane events at the NATS.<BR>>> > Scott<BR>>> ><BR>>> _______________________________________________<BR>>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<BR>>> <A href="http://us.mc11.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" ymailto="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A><BR>>> <A href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target=_blank>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</A><BR>>><BR>>>
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