<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">I would assume that we (pattern) are not flying higher than other forms of RC . . .. sailplanes are frequently WAY higher than 1000ft.<br><br>Also, there are a variety of devices for measuring altitude in real time with voice transmission. They are mainly used to find thermals. Here is one:<br><br>http://www.picolario.com/index.html<br><br><br>Bob Kane<br>
getterflash@yahoo.com<br><br>--- On <b>Thu, 9/9/10, Ron Van Putte <i><vanputte@cox.net></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte@cox.net><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<br>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 8:52 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Only until someone in the FAA enforcement division happens to see an R/C airplane performing one of the tall maneuvers; then all hell will break loose.<br><br>Ron<br><br>On Sep 9, 2010, at 7:45 AM, Tim Taylor wrote:<br><br>> The fact is, if passed it'll be ignored as usual.<br>> <br>> --- On Wed, 9/8/10, John Fuqua <<a ymailto="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> From: John Fuqua
<<a ymailto="mailto:johnfuqua@embarqmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=johnfuqua@embarqmail.com">johnfuqua@embarqmail.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<br>> To: "'General pattern discussion'" <<a ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>> Date: Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 10:29 PM<br>> <br>> The fact that we are having this discussion only proves the point that we<br>> have no real way of determining, in real time, how high we are. We are<br>> guessing. If the 400 foot gets to be a HARD limit we are really screwed.<br>> <br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>> [mailto:<a
ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" href="/mc/compose?to=nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Bill's Email<br>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:50 PM<br>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:scott@rcfoamy.com" href="/mc/compose?to=scott@rcfoamy.com">scott@rcfoamy.com</a>; General pattern discussion<br>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Height of manuevers<br>> <br>> Sorry, FAA AC 91-57 says 400 feet, period. When within 3 miles of an<br>> airport you need to contact the airport.<br>> <br>> The AMA Safety Code reads 400 feet within 3 miles of an airport and to<br>> contact the airport. AMA added a comma which changed the whole meaning.<br>> <br>> FAA is now writing new rules that will affect us, to what extent remains<br>> to be seen.<br>> <br>> <br>> AC 91-57 wording:<br>> Do not fly model aircraft higher than
400 feet above the surface.<br>> When flying aircraft within 3 miles of an airport, notify the airport<br>> operator, or when an air traffic facility is located at the airport,<br>> notify the control tower, or flight service station.<br>> <br>> <a href="http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/" target="_blank">http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/0/</a><br>> 1acfc3f689769a56862569e70077c9cc/$FILE/ATTBJMAC/ac91-57.pdf<br>> <br>> <br>> AMA Safety CODE:<br>> <br>> 3. I will not fly my model aircraft higher than approximately 400 feet<br>> above ground level, when within three (3) miles of an airport without<br>> notifying the airport operator.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On 9/8/10 6:37 PM, <a ymailto="mailto:scott@rcfoamy.com" href="/mc/compose?to=scott@rcfoamy.com">scott@rcfoamy.com</a> wrote:<br>> > > From Greg at ama it is as
the 1981 FAA advisory stated 400 feet agl<br>> within 3 miles of a CONTROLED airport.<br>> ><br>> > If flying within 3 miles the airport has to be notified as they do for the<br>> sailplane events at the NATS.<br>> > Scott<br>> ><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="/mc/compose?to=NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>> <a
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