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If you hear me saying, "Come on baby!", the maneuver isn't being done with authority.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Keith Hoard wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Ron,<br><br> As an engineer, how do you define "authority" . . . <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Ron Van Putte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Picturum la solo digit.<br> <br> To debunk the previous e-mail's pejorative comments, I actually have a data set to report. I am flying a 9 lb, 31 3/4 oz Genesis and am using the lighter Flightmax 15C 5S-4400 mah packs so my airplane will make weight. I am an engineer, but am not so anal as to record all their weights and charge/discharge cycles (who would do that?), but can report that the 4400's have enough power at the end of the Master class maneuver sequence to pull the 1/2 Square Loop w/ Two 1/2 Rolls Up with authority.<br> <br> Ron<br> <br> On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Atwood, Mark wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> It's just hard for Ron to write anything long since he has to translate from his native Latin.<br> <br> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone<br> <br> ----- Reply message -----<br> From: "Ron Van Putte" <<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net" target="_blank">vanputte@cox.net</a>><br> Date: Tue, Aug 10, 2010 7:36 pm<br> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 15C vs 20C Flightmax batteries<br> To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br> <br> Yes. Nobody can match Mark's pithy comments.<br> <br> Ron VP<br> <br> <br> <br> On Aug 10, 2010, at 6:21 PM, colin chariandy wrote:<br> <br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> with all the e users out there is mark the only one who can give<br> some feedback on this?<br> <br> colin<br> <br> ----------<br> Sent via Rogers MobileMail<br> <br> ------Original Message------<br> From: Atwood, Mark <<a href="mailto:atwoodm@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">atwoodm@paragon-inc.com</a>><br> To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br> Date: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:01:17 PM GMT-0400<br> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 15C vs 20C Flightmax batteries<br> <br> I've been running both and would encourage you to get the 20C, or<br> even the 25C if you can handle the weight.<br> <br> 15C - typically run between 1180-1205gms for a pair (with connector<br> and Velcro, etc). Power is good, but NOT if they're cold, or even<br> cool. I have 50 flights on 4 different sets and I would argue that<br> most are on their last legs. They still fly the P schedule fairly<br> strong, but F is a stretch, and they are getting hot and puffy now.<br> <br> 20C - I have 2 sets and 1 is 1210gms and the other is 1245. BIG<br> variance. But they seem to handle the load better. One is still<br> getting hot/puffy though with only 30+ flights on it. THIS btw,<br> is the main issue I think with the zippy packs. Inconsistency.<br> Some are great, some are fair, some suck. You get a little of<br> what you pay for. I'd say there's about an 85% hit ratio with the<br> flightmax packs, meaning that you should expect about 1 in 5 to be<br> pretty poor. Still a good value though.<br> <br> 25C - these are heavy...about 1300gms per set, but they've been<br> running very strong, very cool, and staying rock solid (no<br> puffiness yet) with about 30+ flights on 3 sets. They still have<br> the issue of not delivering great power when they're cool. At the<br> nats we noticed that the Zippy's seem to be more temperature<br> sensitive than the TP batteries. The TP were down a little when<br> they were cold, but the zippy's were down a LOT. When they were<br> warm, they held their own with the TP batteries. Not sure what the<br> reason for the variance is though.<br> <br> This was my first year flying E, so that's really all I have to<br> offer. For reference, I was running a Hacker 14XL with a 21x14<br> prop flying 7.5min flights (fairly strict about that).<br> <br> -Mark<br> <br> Mark Atwood<br> Paragon Consulting, Inc. | President<br> 5885 Landerbrook Drive Suite 130, Cleveland Ohio, 44124<br> Phone: 440.684.3101 x102 | Fax: 440.684.3102<br> <a href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">mark.atwood@paragon-inc.com</a>> |<br> <a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">www.paragon-inc.com</a><<a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.paragon-inc.com/</a><<a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com" target="_blank">http://www.paragon-inc.com</a><<a href="http://www.paragon-inc.com/" target="_blank">http://www.paragon-inc.com/</a>>><br> <br> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-" target="_blank">nsrca-</a><br> <a href="mailto:discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of colin chariandy<br> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:14 PM<br> To: NSRCA Mailing List<br> Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 15C vs 20C Flightmax batteries<br> <br> I noticed that most are running the 15C 5000 packs but these seem<br> to be in stock infrequently. Can anyone comment on the performace<br> of the 20C 5000s from Flightmax.<br> <br> What's the weight, performance and longevity compared to the 15Cs.<br> <br> I know there must be reasons that the 15Cs are more popular....just<br> not sure what they are. I would have though the 20Cs would be<br> better as someone reported that they are only 10gms more than the<br> 15Cs and would provide a bit more power. Additionally I noticed the<br> TPs are 20C...not 15C.<br> <br> I'm new to the e-scene...so please ignore the ignorance.<br> <br> Colin.<br> <br> <br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br> _______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br> </blockquote> <br> _______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br> </blockquote> <br> _______________________________________________<br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><br> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><br>Keith Hoard<br>Collierville, TN<br><a href="mailto:khoard@gmail.com">khoard@gmail.com</a><br><br><br><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">NSRCA-discussion mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div> </blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>