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Yep, especially you guys.<div><br></div><div>Ron</div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 24, 2010, at 7:32 PM, Daniel McLalin wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Does that include those of us that say OH OH?<br><br> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Ronald Van Putte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:vanputte@cox.net">vanputte@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Guys who say, "Oops!" a lot should steer clear of electric-powered airplanes.<br><br>Ron <div> <div></div> <div class="h5"><br><br>On Jul 24, 2010, at 6:42 PM, <<a href="mailto:shinden1@cox.net" target="_blank">shinden1@cox.net</a>> wrote:<br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Agree Dave<br><br>As in any competition you have to know your equipment ,keep up with maintenance ,and have backups.<br> I saw many smoked batteries,and burnt speed controllers at the Nats ,,as well as flame outs from the YS Engines.<br><br>Competition is supposed to be rough on equipment .I know of plenty Neu motors that have spun.or burnt and took forever to be repaired or replaced and upgrades continue as in any competition engine.<br> <br>But I will agree if you are new to the sport .or not very handy ,,Electric my give you an easier time in competition<br><br>Bryan<br>---- Dave <<a href="mailto:DaveL322@comcast.net" target="_blank">DaveL322@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">I would agree that a properly running YS170 is still competitive...but with<br>the "cost" of more fiddling, more maintenance, and less margin on the noise<br> meter. For anyone starting from scratch..I think it is getting very hard to<br>make the argument that electric is more expensive.<br><br><br><br>The Neu F3A certainly is putting the most RPM to the prop of any of the<br> currently used electric setups, and the potential "cost" is that when<br>propped to make the big power...it also has the capability of smoking lipos<br>if the throttle hand is too heavy. The newer higher KV Plett Evo might be<br> in this category as well, but I've not seen one run yet.<br><br><br><br>Regards,<br><br><br>Dave<br><br><br><br> _____<br><br>From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><br> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of mike mueller<br>Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32 PM<br>To: General pattern discussion<br> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop<br><br><br><br><br> Well stated Matt. Although I do have to say that the most balistic and<br>powerful plane I saw at the Nats was Bobby Satalino's Beryl with a non CDI<br> YS 170. Next in performance was anything with a Neu like Dave Lockhart.<br><br> E. has many options that deliver the mail. Still a good YS is viable. Mike<br><br>--- On Sat, 7/24/10, <a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target="_blank">rcmaster199@aol.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target="_blank">rcmaster199@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br><br>From: <a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target="_blank">rcmaster199@aol.com</a> <<a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target="_blank">rcmaster199@aol.com</a>><br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop<br> To: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:06 PM<br><br>I took a 3 minute flight on Dave Lockhart's Bravo several weeks ago...it was<br> my first on a full blown electric. And it was enough to convince me that wet<br>powered systems are behind.<br><br><br><br>The Electric Bravo is superior in its powerplant than practically every wet<br>set-up I've seen. (That's not necessarily true of all electrics but Dave's<br> set-up is something else...like cheating)<br><br><br><br>It's gonna be expensive but if one wants to be really serious about pattern,<br>electric power has got to be in your future. And no, it has nothing to do<br>with judging in my opinion. Electric just makes power delivery (of the type<br> we demand in pattern), easy.<br><br><br><br>MattK<br><br><br><br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:shinden1@cox.net" target="_blank">shinden1@cox.net</a><br>To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br> Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 2:21 pm<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop<br><br><br><br><br><br>I smell electric in your future!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Bryan<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>---- Archie Stafford <<a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a><br> <<a href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>> ><br>wrote:<br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Now that the NATS are done, I'm going through some stuff and getting rid<br></blockquote>of<br><br><br> <br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">things I'm not using. I wanted to post the items here first.<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">1 NIB YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition - 800.00 (this setup has never run)<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br> <br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with new ignition<br></blockquote>700.00<br><br><br><br> <br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with used ignition<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br> <br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">(still runs perfect) 600.00<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">1 Hatori 821 Pipe brand new, no box 120.00<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">1 Hatori 821 pipe used, but perfect condition 75.00<br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"><br></blockquote><br><br><br><br><br><br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Please email me directly at <a href="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a><br> </blockquote><<a href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net" target="_blank">http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>><br><br><br><br><br><br><br> <br> <blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; 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