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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would agree that a properly running
YS170 is still competitive…..but with the “cost” of more
fiddling, more maintenance, and less margin on the noise meter. For
anyone starting from scratch….I think it is getting very hard to make the
argument that electric is more expensive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The Neu F3A certainly is putting the most
RPM to the prop of any of the currently used electric setups, and the potential
“cost” is that when propped to make the big power…..it also
has the capability of smoking lipos if the throttle hand is too heavy. The
newer higher KV Plett Evo might be in this category as well, but I’ve not
seen one run yet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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Dave<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>mike mueller<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, July 24, 2010 6:32
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
Cleaning out the shop</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> Well stated Matt. Although I do have to say
that the most balistic and powerful plane I saw at the Nats was Bobby
Satalino's Beryl with a non CDI YS 170. Next in performance was anything with
a Neu like Dave Lockhart. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> E. has many options that deliver the mail.
Still a good YS is viable. Mike<br>
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--- On <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sat, 7/24/10, rcmaster199@aol.com <i><span
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From: rcmaster199@aol.com <rcmaster199@aol.com><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop<br>
To: nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org<br>
Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 5:06 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I took a 3 minute
flight on Dave Lockhart's Bravo several weeks ago...it was my first on a full
blown electric. And it was enough to convince me that wet powered systems are
behind. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The Electric Bravo is
superior in its powerplant than practically every wet set-up I've seen.
(That's not necessarily true of all electrics but Dave's set-up is something
else...like cheating)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>It's gonna be
expensive but if one wants to be really serious about pattern, electric power
has got to be in your future. And no, it has nothing to do with judging in my
opinion. Electric just makes power delivery (of the type we demand in
pattern), easy.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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From: shinden1@cox.net<br>
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Sat, Jul 24, 2010 2:21 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Cleaning out the shop<br>
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<pre style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>I smell electric in your future! </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><tt><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>---- Archie Stafford <<a
href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net"
target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a>> wrote: </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> Now that the NATS are done, I'm going through some stuff and getting rid of </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> things I'm not using. I wanted to post the items here first. </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> 1 NIB YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition - 800.00 (this setup has never run) </span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with new ignition 700.00 </span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> 1 YS 1.70DZ CDI with ignition fresh factory rebuild with used ignition </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> (still runs perfect) 600.00 </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> 1 Hatori 821 Pipe brand new, no <st1:address
w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">box</st1:Street> 120.00</st1:address> </span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> 1 Hatori 821 pipe used, but perfect condition 75.00 </span></font></tt><font
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style='background:white'><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>> Please email me directly at <a
href="http://us.mc510.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=astafford@md.metrocast.net"
target="_blank" ymailto="mailto:astafford@md.metrocast.net">astafford@md.metrocast.net</a> </span></font></tt><font
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