<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>A wireless buddy box was being marketed by a vendor at NEAT fair last year.<br>I don't recall the name.<br><br>Ron Lockhart<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "John Fuqua" <johnfuqua@embarqmail.com><br>To: "General pattern discussion" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>Sent: Friday, July 9, 2010 4:10:59 PM<br>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] S.bus<br><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Actually I think Futaba now has a wireless buddy box available.</span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood,
Mark<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 09, 2010 12:23 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] S.bus</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’ve been saying that for years…if only we could have wireless
power we’d be there. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I’d also like to see Bluetooth Buddy Box systems.</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Fuqua<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 09, 2010 12:06 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">What would be really cool is a system with wireless
servos. Sort of a mini Wi-Fi hotspot. Now that would be
really useful. </span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 09, 2010 10:09 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">There </span><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">is a great article on latency here:</span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">A lot of people are hung up
on transmitter/receiver latency numbers, and don't see the whole picture.
This gives as good a fact based write up as any I've seen.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif"; color: black;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: John Fuqua <johnfuqua@embarqmail.com><br>
To: 'General pattern discussion' <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 8:48 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] S.bus</span></p>
<div id="AOLMsgPart_0_337b5958-6f1a-4745-bec0-d527f7e9c3c3"><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">How fast is anyone able to practically see a faster "command repetition</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">rate" anyway and relate it to some surface movement??? We are all ready at</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">instantaneous</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">-----Original Message-----</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">[<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org?" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Ed Alt</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 8:03 AM</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">To: General pattern discussion</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] S.bus</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">Not only could the command repetition rate be increased, but you now have a </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">comms bus that will support duplex communication. This is a great way to </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">add telemetry devices.</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">Ed</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">--------------------------------------------------</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">From: "James Oddino" <<a href="mailto:joddino@socal.rr.com" target="_blank">joddino@socal.rr.com</a>></span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 1:26 AM</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] S.bus</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;"> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> I was thinking that maybe now without the pulse width interface, they </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> could have three times the rep rate with a digital interface, but who </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> knows. There was a time when I knew what was going on inside RC systems </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> so I could decide what was best. Futaba doesn't seem to care, or maybe </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> the marketing guys don't know what is important.</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> Jim</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> On Jul 8, 2010, at 8:10 PM, Ed Alt wrote:</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> The only thing I would want to see is a redundant connection option. As </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> neat as the single bus is, one connection failure at the serial driver </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> source does you in no matter what. Some redundancy is really needed to </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> make this have more appeal IMO. Still a really good step forward though.</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> --------------------------------------------------</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> From: "Bill's Email" <<a href="mailto:wemodels@cox.net" target="_blank">wemodels@cox.net</a>></span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:02 PM</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> To: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] S.bus</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>>> There is a whole page of info as well on the Futaba FASST Site:</span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>>> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>>> <a href="http://2.4gigahertz.com/sbus/index.html" target="_blank">http://2.4gigahertz.com/sbus/index.html</a></span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>>> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: black;">>>> </span></tt></pre><pre style="background: none repeat scroll 0% 0% white;"><tt><span style="color: 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