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<font size=3>Hey, I'd work with them in a heartbeat!<br><br>
At 12:44 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Sounds like a mission for the
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On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Phil Spelt
<<a href="mailto:chuenkan@comcast.net">chuenkan@comcast.net</a>>
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<dd>Bill, that is an empirical question -- one that could be tested in
the lab. However, I am convinced that your implication is
correct:Â the difference between 7 ms and 14ms is probably not
detectable by anyone. The fascinating question is, where is the
mean cut-off time between non-detectable and detectable
delays...<br><br>
<dd>Anyone got a coupl'a mil $$ so I can but the equipment and conduct
the tests??? lol<br><br>
<dd>At 12:00 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:<br>
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<dd>The next question then becomes, at what level can we perceive a
difference in performance? In other words, can we really perceive a
difference between 7ms and 14ms latency? I will not argue that large
differences are readily perceptible (25 versus 250), but what about
smaller differences. How large of a difference does there need to be and
is there a threshold below which it does not really matter?<br><br>
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<dd>Phil Spelt wrote: <br>
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<dd>As a Psychologist, I agree with you, Bill. As an R/C pattern
jockey, I will only point out that the electronic latency is ADDED TO the
wet-ware latency...<br><br>
<dd>Thus, your last statement is true, indeed!<br><br>
<dd>At 11:19 AM 7/9/2010, you wrote:<br>
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<dd>I am amused by discussions about latency. We have long discussions
about the perceived advantages of single digit differences in system
latency while ignoring the fact that the average human reaction time
(call it organic latency) is around 250 milliseconds. <br><br>
<dd>I guess you can argue that since we are inherently so slow we need
all the electronic help we can get!! <br><br>
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<dd>Jon Lowe wrote: </blockquote></blockquote>
<dd><font face="Arial, Helvetica" size=2>There is a great article on
latency here: <br><br>
<dd><a href="http://www.rcmodelreviews.com/what_is_latency.shtml">
http://www.rcmodelreviews.com/what_is_latency.shtml</a><br><br>
<dd>A lot of people are hung up on transmitter/receiver latency numbers,
and don't see the whole picture. This gives as good a fact based
write up as any I've seen.<br><br>
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There are only two types of aircraft -- fighters and targets.<br><br>
</i></b></font><font size=3>Phil Spelt, Past President, Knox County Radio
Control Society, Inc.<br>
URL:
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http://www.kcrctn.com<br>
</a>AMA--1294, Scientific Leader Member SPA--177, Board
Member<br>
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