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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Rudder is moving approximately ¼&#8221; at the 12% setting.  Actually
could use a bit more but the rudder would then induce more &#8220;roll&#8221; and &#8220;pitch&#8221;
so the plane would have to cross-mix-itself out to get it really correct.  Very
perplexing to help a new person with and to end up in an advanced mixning situation
to say the least.  Also &#8211; does not have a heavy wing as I tested that too.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'>Jim<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J Shu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:36 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] C'ARF Integral - Mixing secret?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>Not
sure what the JR mix is like, but I've never used more than 2% on any
of&nbsp;the Integrals.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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Regards,<br>
Jason<br>
<a href="http://www.jshulman.weebly.com/">www.jshulman.weebly.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>

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Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:jim.woodward@baesystems.com"
title="jim.woodward@baesystems.com">Woodward, Jim R (US SSA)</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"
title="nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">General pattern discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Tuesday, July 06,
2010 2:31 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] C'ARF Integral - Mixing secret?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Guys, - Integral owners,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This weekend I helped out a friend fly his newly acquired
Integral and the plane has some surprising tendencies.&nbsp; I have never flown
a plane that had such severe throttle to rudder mixing needed. &nbsp;When
throttle is reduced there is a dramatic yaw to the right.&nbsp; This symptom
starts taking place from 1/3 throttle to idle.&nbsp; Above ½ the plane starts
to fly normal.&nbsp; On a vertical downline (idle, no throttle to rudder mix),
the plane will actually attempt to yaw out of the downline.&nbsp; Other noted
times &#8211; when performing a simple ½ reverse Cuban and coming around the back
with just a little bit of power, the plane dramatically yaws to the
right.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>For my 4 flights on the plane over two days (plus watching him
fly) and recognizing this bizarre tendency was occurring relatively high on the
throttle stick, I input a Throttle to Left Rudder mix.&nbsp; This mix is at 12%
Linear (using JR 12X).&nbsp; 12% takes 90% of the bad problem away.&nbsp;
Throttle curve is nice.&nbsp; .<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>From ½ throttle up the plane flies pretty nice and has very
little pitch or roll coupling for knife edge.&nbsp; CG seems very good.&nbsp;
The motor mount and nose-ring are tight.&nbsp; The YS and 19x11 combo work
great. Rudder trim appears to be normal.&nbsp; There is no obvious sign or
reason for this weird trait<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Have any other Integral owners seen this severe yaw when power
is reduced?&nbsp; In all my other planes if I had EVER considered a throttle to
rudder mix is was on the order of 2% - certainly not +10% mix. <o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Jim W.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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