<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><FONT color=black face=arial></FONT><SPAN style="DISPLAY: inline-block" contentEditable=false></SPAN>The F3A maneuver description may be inadequate and/or inaccurate, however that doesn't much matter for the judge who has the ardeous task of deciphering the snap. The description stands as is for this cycle and that's how the World's judges will judge them to the best of their ability next year. I urge all judges that judge F3A Semis and Finals at this year's Nats/Team Selection contest to take heed of FAI description (not AMA) and judge accordingly.</div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">In essence, Snaps should not zeroe'd as easily as they once were; far cry from where it was just a couple years ago. I believe that's the main reason the rule was written as indicated. </div>
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<div style="FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mike's point I think deals with bringing the Snap back out of hibernation such that folks get a chance to re-read it and re-hash just in time for the Team Selection; fresh in one's mind so to speak</div>
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From: Woodward, Jim R (US SSA) <jim.woodward@baesystems.com><br>
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<div><FONT color=navy size=2 face=Arial>Mike, I'm replying from a blackberry without the benefit of the rulebook in front of me. I thought these were called "Flick Rolls" now? I don't think any of us are equipped in the context of judging a 0.5 second manuever to determine if is "stalled" or "unstalled." I think Jerry Budd posted on the nsrca list the last dissertation on snaps, which from memory, pretty much proved the planes are not stalled.<br>
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Given you posted this, what do you want to see happen? Thx Jim W.</FONT></div>
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<div class=MsoNormal>Given the abundance of snap maneuvers(7 maneuvers, 9 snaps) in the F-11 pattern, I feel compelled to give the exact description via the F3A rulebook:</div>
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<div class=MsoNormal>A snap-roll is a rapid autorotative roll where the model aircraft is in a stalled attitude, with a continuous high angle of attack.</div>
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<div class=MsoNormal>Snap rolls have the same judging criteria as axial rolls as far as start and stop of the rotation, and constant flight path through the manoeuvre is concerned.</div>
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<div class=MsoNormal>At the start of a snap-roll, the fuselage attitude must show a definite break and separation from the flight path, before the rotation is started, since the model aircraft is supposed to be I a stalled condition throughout the maneuver. If the stall/break does not occur and the model aircraft barrel-rolls around, the manoeuvre must be severely downgraded(more than 5 points). Similarly, axial rolls disguised as snap-rolls must be severely downgraded(more than 5 points)</div>
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<div class=MsoNormal>Snap-rolls can be flown both positive and negative, and the same criteria apply. The attitude(positive or negative) is at the competitors discretion. If the model aircraft returns to an unstalled condition during the snap-roll, the manoeuvre is severely downgraded using the 1 point/15 degree rule. </div>
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