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color:#1F497D'>Speaking of…Earl can you attach the unknowns also. I am trying
to do this and don’t have the maze of the path figured out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Mike <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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[mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard
Lewis<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 14, 2010 9:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A Judging / Scoring<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Earl,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Can you provide a link to the FAI F3A sporting code and/or
the Maneuver descriptions for the 2011 sequences...I will google them when I
get a chance, but if you have links you can easily post it would be easier..:)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On your topic, is there any basis within the written rules
to justify a judge tallying partial points and using a roundoff method
(up/dowm) to get whole points?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>I know you have been to some international comps and we have
some international judges on this list, can you or anyone else comment on
how this issue is dealt with by others around the world? It would be
beneficial if the judging during the team selection (Nats) approximated
the judging philosophies that will be applied at a Worlds Competition, to
select pilots that would fare best when judged by the internaitonal pool
of judges they will ultimately fly in front of.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Richard Lewis<o:p></o:p></p>
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font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Earl Haury <ejhaury@comcast.net><br>
<b>To:</b> NSRCA Mailing List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Mon, June 14, 2010 9:00:43 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] F3A Judging / Scoring</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The list has
been a bit quiet - maybe this will help. The Nats are just around the
corner and include the F3A Team Selections. F3A scoring is different than AMA
in that maneuver scores are recorded in whole points - no half points. But just
what does this mean? Is every errant movement a whole point deduction? Consider
the 1 point deduction for each 15 degree error guide - how is a 5 degree error
scored? It's important that everyone be on the same page with this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I suggest
that while the rules require <strong><u><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>recording</span></u></strong>
the score in whole points there is no requirement or limit as to the magnitude
of <strong><u><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>downgrades</span></u></strong>
applied to individual errors by a judge. A judge is free to use whatever
fraction deemed appropriate. Logically, a 5 degree error requires a 1/3
point downgrade, 10 degrees a 2/3, and so on. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The 1 for 15
guide doesn't allow a "free" zone of less than 15 degrees where no
downgrade is applied and, similarly, doesn't mean small errors of a few degrees
are downgraded a whole point.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>OK - so
only one 5 degree error is observed for an entire maneuver, how is this
recorded? Ask this - is there a whole point deduction, is the deduction even
near a whole point? No - then recorded the score for the maneuver a 10! The
rules don't require a perfect maneuver for a 10 - just less than a whole point
deduction. OTOH - a 10 degree error only would be scored a 9 as it's nearer a
whole point and would be rounded down. Half point deductions present a bit
of a quandary (one mathematical convention is to round to the even
number) and I don't use them for F3A. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>What works
best for me is a 1/3 point downgrade for small errors which is
consistent with a 5 degree error. I find this an easy measure to tally elemental
downgrades during the maneuver and eliminates questions with rounding as the
score is recorded. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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